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 Posted 09/24/2018  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of my Ferdinands

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 Posted 09/24/2018  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cableguy815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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through DHL that went missing for more than two weeks so I guess it's inevitable for an unfortunate event like this to happen at a certain point in time!


Paul, did DHL ultimately find the coin? This is the first issue/"loss" I've experienced on hundreds of deliveries. I agree, it's eventually bound to happen but of all purchases, it had to be this one? This was one of my largest purchases. Again, I wasn't too concerned about the money as it was covered, but much more so for the coin itself.

Zohar - First of all, that's some stunning pieces! Secondly, that is very interesting research! I never would have imagined that there were SO MANY variants of the Ferdinand thalers.
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Zohar444 Awesome pieces, different league!
cableguy815 I did get it in the end, but I thought it was gone for good!Even now I'm waiting for a common gelderland reichstaler that was posted from Germany last wednesday and the tracking message says ''This item is now leaving the originating country''which is more than funny since it usually takes around two days to reach the Heathrow sorting center.I had a few bad experiences, from royal mail staff not even bothering to ring at my door to coins that the auction house forgot to post though I had made the payment so I guess it's a bit of bad luck involved too!
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 Posted 09/24/2018  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
due to this thread, I've started my crown sized collection.......36mm and up, I'll try and post pic, have got many countries so far. Loving this thread as it gives me ideas for certain countries
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@MKMAN - we live to serve! Glad to be a source of inspiration to someone. Definitely do share some of your crowns. Last I recall you focused mainly in Thai Bahts; glad to see you branching out. There is some great material out there (just look at the stuff posted by Zohar, WCG, Paul, as well as others) and it is always extra heartwarming to be in a circle of close friends with similar taste and appreciation for little (or not so little as is in our case) silver treasures.
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Great looking coins Zohar
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@cableguy815 - the wolfenbuttel 2T is outrageously nice. I really like that piece. I took a spin back through this thread and had to stop and admire the 1747 2 Speciedaler also. Really a spectacular piece.

Adding a couple of Munster talers that I don't think I posted previously.

1706 Munster - sede vacante - NGC MS-63; planchet flaw on reverse typical to the issue
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1761 Munster - sede vacante - NGC MS-64
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 Posted 09/26/2018  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wcg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scarcity has a strong pull for me. This is an uncommon taler from Paderborn. Struck in 1719 to commemorate the sede vacante after the death of the bishop. PCGS AU-50.

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Thank you for the lovely pics of some truly beautiful coins!
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 Posted 09/27/2018  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coins wcg
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 Posted 09/27/2018  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1706 Munster - sede vacante - NGC MS-63; planchet flaw on reverse typical to the issue
1761 Munster - sede vacante - NGC MS-64
This is an uncommon taler from Paderborn. Struck in 1719 to commemorate the sede vacante after the death of the bishop. PCGS AU-50.
A nice looking trio you have posted.
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WCG - Those are some very impressive pieces. I especially like the 1706 munster thaler - I LOVE those decorative helmeted motifs on large crowns (hence my purchase of the wolfenbuttel 2T). The preservation/condition of these already very rare pieces is superb. I'm curious, did you purchase these graded or raw? Also, as you've noted before, many of your pieces surround the Sede Vacante theme, I would really like to learn why this has such a draw on you.

As for the 1747 Speciedaler - thank you, it is my favorite piece in my entire collection. I remember waking up at 5am that day to participate in the foreign auction, it was so exciting! I was expecting a bidding war but surprisingly enough, my pre-bid was higher by several bid increments. As disappointed as it was to wake up at 5am for apparently nothing, it was very satisfying to learn that I won such a stupendous piece with a fairly weak bid.
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cableguy815 - Many thanks for the kind words. Approximately half of the pieces I have purchased were raw and I sent them to NGC. The ones picked up from Germany were almost all raw, and the ones purchased in the US have almost all been previously graded. Getting started, I am not ashamed to admit the grading was a bit of a crutch. Today I prefer it simply for the liquidity in resale, objectivity of grade and authenticity, and protection for family if something happened to me. The 1706 was purchased raw from a German dealer's inventory, the 1761 came in an old generation NGC holder from a collector, and the 1719 Paderborn came from a Goldberg auction.

As for the sede vacante theme, I guess you can say it fell on me. I spent hours paging through old outdated Krause guides learning about the different states, histories, and taler designs. The variety of the themes and motifs of the different states is what drew my attention. The sede vacante designs were of particular appeal due to the distinctive designs and exclusivity of the 1 year issues. After purchasing one on a whim in an auction (1787 Regensburg belew which was sold this past year), I was hooked. Perhaps one influence that led me down this path was impression that several cathedrals had on me during a visit to Europe many years ago. There is something special about sitting quietly in a 600+ year old cathedral studying the architectural and sheer scale, and imagining how outrageous it must have been at the time it was built. The intricate stonework, stained glass, carved wood, historical figures entombed, enormous scale.....it all struck me as something that seems infeasible in our modern world. As an American raised on Disney world, the authenticity of it all was awe inspiring. I suppose the sede vacante theme for me captures a small part of this mystique. Ken Follett's 'Pillars of the Earth' is my favorite fictional novel series of all time. Perhaps off topic, but if you have read it, you know how it fits squarely into this cathedral theme.

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Ken Follett's 'Pillars of the Earth' is my favorite fictional novel series of all time. Perhaps off topic, but if you have read it, you know how it fits squarely into this cathedral theme.
I have not read any of the books, but I really enjoyed the miniseries on TV. I can certainly see how this relates.
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