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Nice additions!  |
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pepactonius, if I may, what is the grade on the 1902 crown?
The strap on the chest is in good shape!
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pepactonius, if I may, what is the grade on the 1902 crown? Assuming it's not a details coin (and I'd be very surprised if it was as the surfaces seem original and I do see luster beaming, esp on rev) I'd peg this coin at AU58-MS60. Quote:
The strap on the chest is in good shape! I find that the side of the helmet (by the ear),the center of the sword, and the knee/leg are the best places to look when trying to determine wear/strike on a crown. Great pieces everyone. Keep em coming! @Txabs - very lovely 5 pesetas; looks pretty gem to me :) Btw, I finally got my shipment for Aureo, duro pics coming soon! |
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pepactonius, if I may, what is the grade on the 1902 crown? NGC AU58 |
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United Kingdom -- 1 crown, 1935:   |
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United Kingdom -- 1 crown, 1935: Very nice! |
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Btw, I finally got my shipment for Aureo, duro pics coming soon!  Can't wait to see them!! Really nice coins you guys are showing on this topic, very high level crowns, thank you all. |
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Here are some coins from my collection of 8 Reales from the Santiago, Chile Mint. Note none of these are gems, and some have problems of some kind - Santiago mint 8 Reales, specially those struck during the reign of Carlos III are practically not known in gem condition. Many of them are, however, very scarce. 8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1787, struck during the reign of Carlos III:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1791 - Transitional issue bearing the bust of Carlos III, issued for Carlos IV: (cleaned, scarce)   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1795. Carlos IV. A very scarce coin with approximately 5 specimens known:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1801, Carlos IV:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1807, Carlos IV:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1810. Struck bearing an 'imaginary' bust of the new king, Fernando VII:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1814, Fernando VII:   8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1817, Fernando VII; This was the last 8 Reales struck by the Spanish Colonial administration after their defeat by the Chilean Patriot army on the fields of Chacabuco, Feb. 12th 1817. A very scarce coin with an estimated 8-12 examples known:   |
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Here are some coins from my collection of 8 Reales from the Santiago, Chile Mint. Excellent!  |
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Australia -- 1 crown, 1937:   |
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Australia -- 1 crown, 1937: Very nice! |
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Great 8 Reales Germanicvs! That 1791 8R is sublime! I'm loving the iridescence. How long have you had this piece? Some of the later pieces are also very impressive (esp the 1810). Quote:
8 Reales, Santiago Mint, 1795. Carlos IV. A very scarce coin with approximately 5 specimens known Are you sure about this? Per NGC, I see a mintage of 200K pieces. Granted that number is meaningless because we don't know how many have been melted down. However, I do see several sales in the past few years and the prices don't reflect this kind of scarcity. |
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Cableguy, yes, you are absolutely right.
ACsearch now shows 4 examples of the 1795, in addition to one which I know was sold in Germany about 3 years ago. So, there are definitely more than 5 examples now known. I got mine from a Superior galleries auction in the early 90's and at that time only 5 examples were known - the situation has changed. I would estimate 20 or so exist/are known today (but that is based purely on 'gut feel').
I purchased the 1791 at a Superior Galleries auction in 1991. Unfortunately it was cleaned, but is retoning nicely.
The 1791 is actually quite scarce as well - this is the case for all Santiago mint 8 Reales struck for Carlos III. Some dates are of course scarcer than others. The 1787 in my collection is one of the more common dates, relatively speaking of course.
As a class, Santiago mint 8 Reales for Carlos IV are (much more) common than those of Carlos III, and those of Fernando VII still more common.
Again, there are specific dates for Fernando VII which are very scarce, for example the 1808 With Imaginary bust (I believe I have only ever seen 3-4 examples sold), and the 1817 of which I estimate max. 12 exist.
In general very few coins remain 'rare' for ever, it seems! New examples are always being found for almost all classic rarities (with very few exceptions).
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03/08/2019 03:11 am
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Wow GERMANICVS.... high level duros, sooo rare some of them. You're right on the rarity, but a coin with 20 examples known is still a difficult coin. I let you a post in a blog which talks about it. Is in Spanish, but I guess with google translate is enough to understand it... and if you have any languaje doubt, feel free to ask me :) http://blognumismatico.com/2019/02/...ismaticas-i/ |
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Thank you, txabs. That is a very interesting article. Absolutely correct: with few exceptions, we just do not know how many examples really exist of many numismatic rarities.
Me gusto mucho el articulo, gracias!
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