How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864) - Page 268

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Spence Moderator United States 34504 Posts	Posted 07/07/2019 2:04 pm Quote: Great info Tdziemia ! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7994 Posts	Posted 07/07/2019 2:41 pm Thanks guys. Since I was a kid, my interest in world coins was always wrapped up with my interest in geography, and now as an adult (more-or-less) with world history. I only got active on CCF last February when the Fourth Edition of How Far Back was nearly through the 1600s, so I am really enjoying being in from the start this time. Edited by tdziemia 07/07/2019 2:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff
t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 07/07/2019 5:21 pm 1640 The Netherlands, West-Friesland half lion dollar (Leeuwendaalder) Report this Post to the Staff
t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 07/07/2019 5:23 pm 1640 Queen Christina of Sweden 1/4 Riksdaler Riksdaler Report this Post to the Staff
pepactonius Pillar of the Community United States 9395 Posts	Posted 07/07/2019 8:57 pm 1640 -- Kingdom of France, Double Tournois: Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 02:37 am 1639 Spain in war with France jeton Dugn.3939, vLoonII.249, Tas513 from Antwerp entitled Longing for Peace Obv: PHIL IIII D G HISP ET INDIAR REX (usual title) Rev: two hands hold a sword and a laurel crown 1639 IN MANV BELLI FINIS what shall it be? war or peace? Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 05:29 am Solidus Christina I VASA (1626-1689) Last monarch of the house Wasa Livonia, Swedish occupation Queen of Poland, Lithuania and Sweden (1632-1689) SOLIDUS.CIVI.RIG.39 SOLIDUS CIVITATIS RIGENSIS solidus of the city of Riga CHRISTINA.D.G.R.S CHRISTINA.DEI.GRATIA.REGINA.SVECLÆ Christina, by the grace of God, Queen of Sweden Riga coin Contemporary fake (the real is silver) SvB # 58 Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34504 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 06:34 am Another Christina eye-roll. She is so much more expressive than the typical monarch. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
joecoin Pillar of the Community United States 789 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 09:10 am Quote: Another Christina eye-roll. She is so much more expressive than the typical monarch. She's got Betty Davis eyes. Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 1:32 pm Quote: Another Christina eye-roll. She is so much more expressive than the typical monarch. She was indeed both expressive and authentic Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7994 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 4:11 pm Christina was related to Jan Casimir of Poland-Lithuania (many of whose coins from the 1660s were posted upthread): both were great-grandchildren of King Gustav I of Sweden who founded the Vasa dynasty. Since we will continue to see a lot of coins of monarchs from both branches of this dynasty over the next few months, the generations went like this: Swedish branch: Gustav I - Charles IX - Gustavus Adolphus - Christina Polish branch: Gustav I - John III(Sweden) - Sigismund III(Poland)-Jan Casimir (Poland) (Eric XIV of Sweden was also a son of Gustav I, and Wladyslaw IV of Poland was a son of Sigismumd III, but neither had children who also became a monarch) Edited by tdziemia 07/08/2019 4:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
pepactonius Pillar of the Community United States 9395 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 6:30 pm 1639 -- Archduchy of Austria, 3 kreuzer: Report this Post to the Staff
t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 7:23 pm 1639 Queen Christina of Sweden Riksdaler Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34504 Posts	Posted 07/08/2019 9:27 pm Here is an Austrian 3 Kreuzer minted in AD 1639: Added: Hmm now that I look closer at the date--it kinda looks like 1659 instead of 1639. What do you think? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Edited by Spence 07/08/2019 9:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7994 Posts	Posted 07/09/2019 07:47 am I will make a guess based on fashion (rather than a catalog). All the previous coins we have seen with Ferdinand III show him with a flat collar. This is the first one with a ruffled collar, which was the earlier style. So I think 1639 is right, even though I agree it looks like a 5. And we will have a good 50 year run with monarchs -- male and female -- wearing this fashion. Report this Post to the Staff
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