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Bedrock of the Community
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Natural vs artificial doesn't matter, the end result of the look is all that matters. People can't even agree on what actually is artificial.
What we do know is that yes a small percentage of coins deemed natural are artificial by some peoples measurements, and that a percentage of AT coins are really just ugly naturally toned ones.
The overwhelming majority of AT looks terrible to a lot of peoples eyes. It's a certain toning look that brings the premiums and if that attractive look is there the premium will follow.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The problem lies in the fact that nobody can really define "artificial toning". Rather than battle over what is and what isn't - it simply makes far more sense to define toned coins as either "market acceptable" and "not market acceptable" to the dealer/collector base. PCGS and NGC both did this a long time ago and so should everyone else. If the look of a coin doesn't meet with certain standards at the big TPG's, it is rejected, REGARDLESS of the source of the toning. In the case you setup with this thread, I assume you mean toning that is not market acceptable. With non-MA toning, a coin should significantly drop in value. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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12/23/2018 11:28 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The problem lies in the fact that nobody can really define "artificial toning" Even if we could though, unless a coin is watched 24/7 we cannot say for certain in many cases. Anything some one can do to something so can nature. 100 percent agreement we need to focus more on the right look and buyers will determine any premium if any. Point being there are countless ways a coin can tone and it does vary coin to coin. It's not a bad thing just is what it is. The whole AT thing was a mistake the market made IMO. It should have been called more like Ugly toning or unacceptable type thing. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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My question is how many coins are ruined in hopes that the person doing the artificial toning ends up with a coin that is worth more. I do feel that if someone knows that a coin has gone through artificial toning, they should disclosure that information.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Who here would buy a coin that the seller states : is artificially toned ?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Actually weather or not one likes the toning is up to the beholder! Personally I like toned coins myself. I have seen coins that were artificially toned that looked pretty good but to me coins that have toned naturally are more desirable for ones collection.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am not a fan of any toning but Artificial toning is just not good at all.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it is ok if you wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and sit it on your kitchen windowsill, but if you use a Burger King napkin or sit it on the bathroom windowsill, then no. They are also good baked in a potato at 350 for an hour; after you are done, the potato is good with a little butter, sour cream and coarse ground sea salt as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm with KenKat, but with a dash of chives. I took this coin home from a trip because I wasn't going to get a P mint out west any time soon, wrapped it in some cheap hotel cardboard, a month or two later (mid 2017) I noticed it was getting a gold tone, so I decided to see what would happen. A year and a half later it looks like this. So at the point I decided to leave it, it became AT, because it was deliberate. I realize these discussions are endless. I have the same ambivalence towards the whole lowball, pocket piece thing.  |
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Rather than battle over what is and what isn't - it simply makes far more sense to define toned coins as either "market acceptable" and "not market acceptable" to the dealer/collector base. PCGS and NGC both did this a long time ago and so should everyone else.  |
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United States
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My wife just brought home some red nail polish I'm going to use to artificially tone my '93-S Morgan!
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United States
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My wife just brought home some red nail polish I'm going to use to artificially tone my '93-S Morgan!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I chose "No" on the poll, but clearly there's a market for artificial toning. I'm tempted to take my blow torch and see how much money I can make by cooking a $15 ASE.  |
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United States
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Quote:I'm tempted to take my blow torch and see how much money I can make by cooking a $15 ASE. |
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