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Original Roll Of 1909-S VDB Copper Cent Realizes Over $1 Mil

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I heard about this at the pre-Long Beach Show. Does anyone have a link to the video? I can't seem to find it
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hmmm I wonder if there are any ms 70's in there
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WOW! I didn't know such a thing even existed. Is it an OBW roll? If so, it's be pretty funny if the buyer cracked the roll and found it only had S-VDB end coins. LOLOLOLOL
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Also, that's an insane price....over $20,000 per coin?
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Yeah Thad if it was bought on ebay!!

IIRC there were several large hoards of 09-S vdb's around.


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I think you may be talking about the video on the PCGS home page, where Jaime Hernandez interviews Goldberg, Sundman, and Bowers. Sundman talks about holding a roll of 09S VDBs in the past and says something about today it would realize over a million dollars.

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If so, it's be pretty funny if the buyer cracked the roll and found it only had S-VDB end coins. LOLOLOLOL
I immediately thought of the same thing! ebay scams have left their mark.
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BadThad, I thought the same exact thing you did. $20,000 per coin is nuts and, what if an 09-S V.D.B. was only found on the end and the rest were 09-S's I'm not sure what kind of roll it was. I will check out the video and see. Over $1 million, no thanks!
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Not to uncommon. Sort of goes with my Uncirculated Roll of 1913 Liverty Head Nickels. Note I said Liverty, not Liberty.
So many stories about coins lately. Sure wonder which is true.
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I have to call bullsnot on the claimed $1 million price or value or whatever it is. MS-66RD examples have sold recently at Heritage for $15-18,000 on the top end. If you bump it up to MS-67RD, you now have a coin worth close to $100,000. The problem with that is MS-67 is top known grade and only 10 are in the PCGS/NGC pop reports and I would imagine that a couple of those are the same coin. So to get a roll worth $1 million you would need 47 MS-66RDs and 3 MS-67RDs, not gonna happen. I cannot see a scenario where 50 raw 1909-S VDBs in a roll are worth more than 50 PCGS slabbed MS-66RDs
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On a different forum, I read that the article this was from had a combined headline about two different things. A origonal roll that was sold, and a different story about the first copper cent to sell for over 1 million.
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Not to uncommon. Sort of goes with my Uncirculated Roll of 1913 Liverty Head Nickels. Note I said Liverty, not Liberty.

Liverty? I don't get it. Please explain to the n00b.
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Liberty nickels from 1913 are extremely rare, with one that sold for $5 million dollars. So if just carl had an uncirculated roll of those, he would have an extremely valuable roll, which is why he said Liverty, instead of Liberty, as a joke.
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On a different forum, I read that the article this was from had a combined headline about two different things. A origonal roll that was sold, and a different story about the first copper cent to sell for over 1 million.

Bingo! That was the headline on the PCGS newsletter and it DOES refer to two different things. An interview with a LONG time dealer where one of the items mentioned was a original roll of SVDB's (Not that unusual in the 40's, Abe Kosoff handled over a dozen of them.) an the second part was the sale of Dan Holmes 1795 S-79 large cent for over a million dollars. The first copper US coin to sell for over a million, an there is a youtube video of the lot being called.
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yeah the coins as a "single" might not add up to 1 million, but as a whole roll thats def. more rare. Therfor holding a higher premium!
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Too much anyway. Who was the buyer. I gotta bridge...
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