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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Some signs of circulation on the reverse, AU-58.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'll say MS-64, very nice.
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 United States
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Interesting toning.  Lower MS.  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Beautiful example! Just a trace of wear, so I'd say AU-58, although MS-63 wouldn't be surprising.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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lets see the slab |
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United States
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I saw low MS, but not a fan of the uneven splotchy toning.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If a big auction house sent it in it probably got a 63/64.
If a regular Joe like us sent it in it probably got an AU55 to 58 details with questionable toning.
Nothing would surprise me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Obverse looks mint state but there does seem to be significant friction on the center reverse. The soft details are from strike but the coin has seen some handling or brief circulation IMO. This is the 16-star reverse variety which is more common than the 13-star version. AU-58 would be fair.
Color and surfaces look fully original to me. Toning isn't especially pretty but the originality is more important. Beautiful and valuable coin Adam! If it's yours, congratulations!
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United States
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If a big auction house sent it in it probably got a 63/64.  Quote:
If a regular Joe like us sent it in it probably got an AU55 to 58 details with questionable toning.  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Sorry that I am a little late. I am really trying to improve my skills in differentiating slight strike weakness with slight wear on an AU(58) coin in this series--it's not always so easy for me. Where is the circulation wear on the reverse? And what makes it definitive wear instead of a weak strike? The scratch on Liberty's jaw distracts me more than I thought it should, but I do like the original look of the coin, and its subdued yet present cartwheel luster.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PCGS says mint state and they should know. Minimal contact marks make the 63 seem appropriate.
All three reverse photos show the soft detail on the eagle's breast and top of the shield. This area has a grayish discoloration that sure looks like friction to me. Have to assume that careful in-hand inspection confirms the surface here is actually undisturbed.
Terrific coin!
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United States
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United States
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just my 2-cents on AU vs MS. its not full proof but it helps it hard enough to determine wear from strike then add heavy toning to the mix. the only real way to tell would be to have the coin in hand, rotating it to see through that toning and looking for those original surfaces underneath. on these early pieces I look at the highest devices which can help determine AU from MS. on this coin I looked at the edges of the hair bow and star 12 both are fully defined as well as the L in LIBERTY. the date can help (that 8 still cracks me up and is so interesting with the overdate). there is just too much toning across the cheek to use that imo unless you had coin in hand. the reverse is a different animal all together. the stars are sharp and appear to have no wear on the tops. cloud 2, the feathers on the right wing, the arrow tips and the leaves on the olive branch. there is still the fine details of the tips of the tail feathers. I dont think you would see that on a circulated coin. i looked at that scratch and the toning (which was not even) and narrowed my grade to AU58 or MS62 as I thought the eye appeal would have held it back from a 63. i think westernsky may have nailed it that the coin was probably sent in by a big house and I think they pushed the grade to 63. I'm wondering if they compared this coin to the other handful of 1798's they graded and placed the coin where they felt its actual value stood vs the others and the auction sales. thats my best guess  |
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United States
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What a beauty. Dimes,1/2 dimes and 3 cent silvers are so small a slight scratch blown up may appear substantial.
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