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1895 Morgan Proof With Filed Rims

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 Posted 11/19/2013  6:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add timothyclark7171 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Trying to assess this coin's value. It's graded PCGS: Genuine 82. Filed Rims; The coin appears XF, but how much should be reasonably deducted from the trends/list price?
I seem to be getting dramatically different answers from those I've spoken with. Thanks.
(and after several unsuccessful attempts, it appears I've finally downsized & uploaded the image!).
Appreciate everyone's thoughts.


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Pay 50-75% of the price of a similar coin without problem depending on how bad the filing is.
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If you buy a coin with a problem you'll always have a coin with a problem.
On the other hand owning ANY sort of 1895 Morgan would be a bonus.

I'm glad I only collect business strikes.
That saves me LOTS of money.
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It sounds as though it may be a rescued jewelry piece. I would want to see the coin before casting any judgment on value.
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Finally uploaded image. See above.
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I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000.......nice neighborhood
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If you buy a coin with a problem you'll always have a coin with a problem.


Not if you keep resubmitting it to different TPG's until you find one that doesn't call it a problem coin
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I've thought of cracking it out & resubmitting it; no guarantees I know of :)
Thinking maybe I should go down to one of the big shows where they have their graders on site, see what they say;

I also thought long & hard before making a deal for this coin, as it cost me some good coins + a good bit of cash; ultimately decided it wasn't a total problem coin as it's both a concentrated rim issue and a rare piece.
It was the first one I'd seen that fits an XF book that I could afford.
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The surfaces lack originality, clear even in the small images; it'll come back a Details coin of one sort or another however you submit it. Probably best to let it stand. Your prospective customers - even as-is, the opening bid for a coin like this should be $20k - will be able to form their own opinions regarding it.
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Appreciate it, SsuperDdave and the rest. I would say what I'm sure is a pretty common refrain - the pictures (in this case from PCGS) dont do the coin justice.
Their's are far too dark and flat, as the luster & eye appeal are actually quite beautiful on this coin (though that's certainly in the eye of the beholder).
As for the grading, I really think PCGS passed the buck here in not assigning a a more specific grade than Genuine, as the coin is VF-Borderline XF to everyone that's examined it.
In VF the coin lists at 31.5k (NGC), obviously not factoring in the rim dings.
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Thinking maybe I should go down to one of the big shows where they have their graders on site, see what they say;

You can try but typically they don't have the graders where you can talk to them (they're busy grading in another room somewhere) and also as a rule the TPG's don't give opinions at shows they just take submissions. If they DO give an opinion it isn't binding.
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