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RadioboyWV New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 02/20/2016 2:12 pm Hi all..... All hail the Great State of WV!-- I joined this forum because I have run across a coin that blew me away. I used to have a pretty nice coin collection as a kid, but gave it all to my son years ago. A close friend wanted me to check into this since I knew at least a 'very-little' about it all these days. She had a gold looking coin--- 1715 very visible on it, and it almost seems a little 'concaved'---not damaged necessarily, but it came out of the stamping process that way. I do NOT know whether it's real gold, but after doing some digging, I found an exact match on-line. It's the same as the guys found off the Coast of Florida. One site said it was a 1715 Royal Tri-Centennial. Please help!! Here's a front and back shot, pardon my poor resolution on the photos. * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Edited by RadioboyWV 02/20/2016 2:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff

nss-52 Moderator United States 54300 Posts	Posted 02/20/2016 4:29 pm A genuine coin would be worth a lot of money. The one found, pictured below, is estimated at $500,000. How did your friend happen to come by this particular coin? Here is a photo of a replica of the same coin - which yours resembles. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here) See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) Report this Post to the Staff
RadioboyWV New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 02/20/2016 4:59 pm She found it in an old home that was being torn down probably 20 years ago. Wow---those pictures are stunning of the uncirculated ones. Frankly the other thing I didn't do yet was weigh it- something didn't seem right about it, and what is the point of a replica? I mean why make it? Report this Post to the Staff
RogerRamjet Valued Member United States 172 Posts	Posted 02/21/2016 01:16 am Sorry to say that yours is almost certainly a replica. If you look at the high points of the design, where it's worn, it doesn't appear to be gold. By comparison, you can see some non-gold looking areas in the photos of the real coin, but they're just gunk stuck to the surface; note that that gunk is mostly trapped in the low parts of the design. Report this Post to the Staff
Circus Pillar of the Community United States 3079 Posts	Posted 02/21/2016 05:53 am Quote: and what is the point of a replica? I mean why make it? Well there are two reasons, one is to rip people that don't know better off and the other is so people that are interested in them can own a copy. A lot of the copies have the word copy on them somewhere,as their intent isn't to fake. Today the faking of coins is all over ebay and mostly form the Chinese with their old coinage,gold,silver coins etc. There is a forum on this sites for fakes. Edited by Circus 02/21/2016 09:01 am Report this Post to the Staff
RadioboyWV New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 02/21/2016 08:58 am I kinda figured-----the weight didn't feel right to me. Report this Post to the Staff
RadioboyWV New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 02/21/2016 10:02 am Thanks Guys!!------ I have 4,000 friends on Facebook and nobody on there knew anything. I knew you folks would make quick work of it. It's pretty much what I figured, the only thing that puzzled me was "why make a copy of this particular coin? And why would a replica of it in as bad a condition as it's in even be in this part of the country?"---Who knows? Maybe a soldier picked it up in Europe years ago or something. Who knows, but I really appreciate it. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 02/21/2016 11:08 am No, this particular replica was made by Sunken Treasures of Florida. This ebay listing by the current owner of the business gives a good brief summary of the origin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351609116578 Quote: NEW COIN!! We have added a new Museum Quality 1714 8 Escudo gold reproduction Original was produced for Spain in mexico This coin is a reproduction of a coin my father found, Bob "Frogfoot" Weller, in the 80's, off the coast of Ft. Pierce, Florida (nieves wrecksite). He started to reproduce our coins under the name SUNKEN TREASURES OF FLORIDA in 1964. Most just dream of finding shipwreck treasures but my Dad was one of the best and recovered millions $ worth. I was lucky enough to be a young teen diver in the early 60's with him, and Ray, Jack, Harry, and Pat....plus others. After his passing almost 3 years ago, I decided to restart Sunken treasures again, just before Fathers' Day. Thanks to his friends up and down the coast and all over the world, I think that we will be successful if we keep the coins as exact now as we did 45 years ago. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me. There are a lot of treasure stories to tell and I can fill in a few of the blanks for you, from a shipmates eye. Or just buy one of his 8 books published. This coin and all of the rest that we will produce are lead free and molded from the original coins so they have the exact measurements. Most replicas do not legally sell their coins because they do not stamp them "copy" or put a small "c" to let people know they're not real. Of course their copies are so bad, we all know they aren't real, but it is still illegal. (law: hobby act). thank you! Rick W. Mr Weller mistakenly labels this item as a "1714," but it's clearly your 1715 replica. Edited by philadelphian 02/21/2016 11:18 am Report this Post to the Staff
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