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Split Grading - An Idea That Would Drive Collectors Mad

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I'm guessing this has been discussed before, but if it has, I missed it.
Why don't the grading services offer "split grading?" A grade for the obverse, and a grade for the reverse?
So many times I've seen coins with a wonderful reverse, but an obverse that was lacking, and dragged the overall grade down.
This would be a bonanza for the grading services as slabbed coins would need to be resubmitted to meet the new standard.
Yes, I can hear the moaning and groaning, as well as the gnashing of teeth at the mere suggestion, but I think it would eventually be embraced.
Then after a reasonable period would undoubtedly come, "edge grading!"
Now someone will respond with the name of some little known grading service from the murky past yhat tried this, and failed to catch on...

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It has been tried in the past. I don't recall the details but I seem to remember it was a Canadian TPG that used flexible plastic 'holders' and noted grades for both sides of the coin.

Someone will chime in to clarify the specifics of what I am saying above.

IMO the service if offered today would not be very popular.
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Interesting
One idea is to put the split grades somewhere on the grading tab but have the overall grade of the numismatic item still in the center.
Like:
AG-3 reverse,
G-6 obverse,
But the net grade would be a G-4...
Just a thought
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I think this would foul up registry set competition. For that reason alone, I think the TPGs would avoid it.
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I believe the original ANACS Photo Certification services (while still owned by the ANA) used split grading
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. . .howell1018, I see your point. They (in a way) graded these coins from one side.
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I believe the original ANACS Photo Certification services (while still owned by the ANA) used split grading

Correct. The American Numismatic Association Certification Service originally used split grades. My second edition of the Coin Collectors Survival Manual (published 1988) goes into detail explaining the split-grade system. They stopped split-grading in 1989 when they transitioned from soft plastic flips to rigid plastic slabs, and just before the ANA sold off ANACS in 1990.

This website shows some examples of early ANACS certificates, with split-grades: https://oldslabholders.com/anacs-ce...-generations

I think one of the key issues leading to the demise of "split grading" is how, exactly, do you determine a book value for a coin with a split grade. Grade on the lowest side? Split the difference? Be biased towards one side? There was no agreement on the issue. The book I mentioned above opines that 80% of the coin's value should rest with the obverse grade, so a coin graded MS-65/62 (with the obverse always the first number in a split-grade) would be 80% of the MS65 price, plus 20% of the MS62 price. I don't know if the TPGs today still operate on the 80:20 net grade formula.

It's all way too complicated; giving a coin a single net grade makes it much easier for investors (who were the primary beneficiaries of the early slabbing companies) to look up the value of their coins in a simple easy-to-read price guide, without needing to do maths. And trying to make a "simple price guide" for split-graded coins would have been excessively complicated, with hundreds of price entries for every single date-mintmark combination; a Redbook-equivalent "complete price guide for US coins" would need an entire bookshelf of books.
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An interesting thought, but split grading does not appeal to me.
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