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Help Required Identifying These 2 Items From The Far East

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 Posted 12/19/2013  09:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mikehy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone,

Would really appreciate any and all assistance in identifying these 2 items from the east will be greatly appreciated. Both are cupro-nickel.

Coin 1 - weight = 32.3 grams - diameter = 40.5 mm
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Coin 2 - weight = 31.5 grams - diameter = 40 mm
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Are they known as "fantasy coins"?

Thanks for any help.
Mike.

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 Posted 12/19/2013  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes... They are certainly not real.
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For the first one I can't find a similar coin from that province with a two dragon configuration.

The second one is definitely a fantasy piece. Produced for the tourist trade depicting a Chinese Emperor but I can't identify it (but not from the Qing dynasty).

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 Posted 12/19/2013  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We've seen the Yunnan fantasy dollar before; here's an old thread with one.

We've seen the other fantasy coin before too; it's a copy of a rare contemporary fantasy issued during the brief reign of Yuan Shikai as emperor in 1916. You can see a "genuine fantasy" as well as several more modern imitations in this thread.

The thing I find curious is the weight. These fantasy dollars usually weigh around 20 grams, much less than a genuine silver dollar would weigh (about 27 grams). 31 grams is actually way too heavy for a genuine dollar.
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identified as fantasy items, moving to Tokens, Medals, and other Exonumia
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