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This is turning into an interesting thread @isl. I see that you started off with NY and have now moved on to OH. Do you have a specific plan for how you will guide us through the various states? I have some tokens, but haven't been through them with the lens of islands. I want to make sure that if I find something appropriate to add, that I am doing so at the right time. Thx for clarifying!
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Quote: This is turning into an interesting thread @isl. I see that you started off with NY and have now moved on to OH. Do you have a specific plan for how you will guide us through the various states? Thank you! Yes, of course there is a plan. I have a list of all the tokens for each state separately. I just want to clarify my entire list in good company here. Now I look at my list and I see that in all the states there are various islands and there are tokens for these islands. And the only state for which I have not yet been able to find anything in numismatics about islands is New Mexico. Every other state except New Mexico has islands and numismatics about them, and it would be interesting if someone is interested in their state and understands local numismatics.
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Among other things, I can periodically offer riddles, such as the one about Vak Island before. For example, there are two known tokens with a denomination of 10 cents and 50 cents. They are written: W.L. Gilbert , Buck islandAnd here is the only known photo. But no one knows where this token is from and what kind of island it is and where it is (sic!). It is believed that it is in the USA. Maybe there are experts here who can determine which state this token is from and where this island is on the map? : 
Edited by Islands Gamer 07/07/2025 06:31 am
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I can also offer special information in various interesting formats. I don't know how successful it is to make collages together with text, but here is such an option. There is a state called Alaska, and there are many different islands there, and there are many different tokens about different islands. They are usually quite rare, often known in a single copy. Basically, I managed to find almost all the images in various archives and auctions. But there is one elusive token for me that has never been on sale anywhere. This is a token for Afognak Island, Alaska. It is known only from a catalog and only in one denomination of 12 and 1/2 cents. And the name Anton Johansen is written. I could never find a live photo except in the catalog, but even there it was in very low quality, so I restored the photo in a special program. I started looking for information in various archives on this name and surname and I managed to find the necessary information. I combined the text with the restored image of the token and this is what came out of it:  If anyone has seen tokens for Afognak Island or has other photos or denominations, that would be interesting!
Edited by Islands Gamer 07/07/2025 05:25 am
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There is also an additional option for the game, which is that some coins or commemorative tokens show maps of the area and islands with their names. This can also be interesting. I will show this using the example of previous numismatic searches about the island of Afognak.  I found two commemorative tokens from 1995 and 1996 that refer to the nearby large Kodiak island. A map of the large island is shown, and next to it is the sought-after Afognak island:  In Alaska, there is a wide variety of trade tokens and other numismatics for Kodiak Island. But these are the only examples where the neighboring island of Afognak is also mentioned: 
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There is one more point of the game on the example of one island in the state of Alaska. This token has never been on sale, and the only existing photo of the token is of very low quality. I have already had experience in restoring low-quality photos of coins using various programs. And now I want to ask those who are familiar with artificial intelligence and the capabilities it has in terms of image restoration. Does anyone want to try to restore the image of this very rare token? Is this interesting to anyone? In case there are people who want to restore an old photo to the state of a normal acceptable photo, I made the maximum quality of the photo that I tried to restore myself, and I show it here: Afognak, Anton Johansen, aluminum token, 12˝ ˘ good for, in trade
Edited by Islands Gamer 07/07/2025 10:26 am
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Quote: And here's another mystery. There is a token that says "Vac islands" and I can't find it on the map.
It is supposed to be in Lucasville, Ohio. The token says the address but I can't find it. Can you explain the meaning of "island"?: The token is for a car cleaning center. "Vac islands" means there are small elevated stations ("islands") with vacuum machines to clean the interior of your car. So you can remove it from your list.
Edited by tdziemia 07/07/2025 4:50 pm
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Very interesting examples being posted! 
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Quote: But no one knows where this token is from and what kind of island it is and where it is (sic!). It is believed that it is in the USA. Maybe there are experts here who can determine which state this token is from and where this island is on the map? The photo at top right suggests one possible location: the Buck Island that is in Klamath Lake, OR (USA). GPS coordinates: 42.298503, -121.852468 There is also a Buck Island in the Washington State San Juan Islands, and another in the U.S. VIrgin Islands. Though it's not clear that any of these islands is populated.
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Thank you for trying to help find the answer! But this mystery does not yet have a precise explanation in numismatics. Quote: and another in the U.S. VIrgin Islands. For the Virgin Islands the situation was different and there was a series of tokens of a completely different type: Buck Island (B.V.I.) tokens unusual: 
Edited by Islands Gamer 07/08/2025 12:02 am
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Quote: in the Washington State San Juan Islands This is also an interesting group of islands in Washington State for numismatics: San Juan Island / San Juan IslandsThere is a main island called San Juan and this token shows it:  Here is another commemorative token which shows the San Juan islands group: 
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There are many trading tokens known for the main island of San Juan in Washington, several dozen different ones. Basically, they always do not indicate the name of the island, but rather say " Friday Harbor". For example: Friday Harbor, Washington, island billiard hall, 10 & 25˘ tokens, San Juan Island, 
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Quote: wiki/Pig_War_(1859) Thank you! I looked at the names of the islands that were involved and mentioned and wrote them down: Vancouver Island (present-day Canada) Gulf Islands Lummi Island Fidalgo Island And for each of these islands there is a list of numismatics, which is interesting. For example, for the island of Fidalgo there are many types of commercial tokens for trade, only they usually do not write the name " Fidalgo" but write " Anacortes, Wash". Anacortes, Washington, 5˘ & 10˘, tokens Fidalgo Island: 
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For the Lummi Island mentioned in Wikipedia, I know of four different tokens, transport and game tokens, but only one of them shows the full name: Lummi Island, Birchwood, Bellingham Washington, token: 
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