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2013 P Mount Rushmore 25 Cent Piece With Some Kind Of Die Issue

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Not exactly sure what I have here but I can tell it happened during the minting process since there is lettering stamped on top of this line.
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To CCF! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no, that did not happen during the minting process. It's just a cut. It's PMD, not a mint error. Worth 25 cents. You can see the piled up, moved, and displaced metal from the damage.
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Do you see how the e in Rushmore is actually stamped on top of the line?
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The words around the rim are incuse (indented) into the raised rim. The E appears to cross the scrape because the E is sunken deeper into the rim metal than the shallow scrape. i.e. the scrape passes over the E.
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I will post some more clear photos tomorrow. When I Googled it, it says it is a pre strike planchet clip
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The only clip associated with that coin was delivered by tin snips.
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Unfortunately, and especially IF you are using AI on google (or anyplace else) you will get a LOT of false answers.

The way AIs are programmed is to scan websites and "average" what it finds to give an answer. It cannot discern fact from falsehood. And it is a verifiable fact when it does not find a specific answer to match it will do what Ai programmers actually call "Hallucinate."

It will make up an answer with no basis in anything verifiable b/c the programmers put more emphasis on it being sociable than factual.

Ask it mintage, ask it to compare verifiable data (such as what year did the US make the most quarters?). But as soon as you ask it to identify, grade, determine if something is a doubled die, etc., you get a chance ot 75% correct answers. Anything needing an opinion going to bring questionable answers..

You have a damaged coin. We see this exact type of damage frequently .

More important is understanding until a person does a good study of what the machinery at the mint can accidentally make when it goes wrong, then that person should realize they have a very slim chance of actually identifying a mint error.

Social media and ebay say just look for something odd. The con hobby knows when people don't know specifics of what to look for then the millions of damaged coins people WILL encounter end up tricking them.



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Well for one thing the planchet would not strike up because the collar comes up and holds the coin in place while striking. This picture Shows damage that would be outside the collar radius.

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EDIT: Just take a look at the edge of that piece sticking out and see if it was struck by the collar and shows the reeds.
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Just damage, is there corresponding damage on the obverse?
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No need to post any more pictures. You have all the information
you need to tell you this is just damage, not an error of any kind.
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Agree with the damage assessment. The coin didn't leave the striking chamber with that 'feature'.
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Im not trying to be obstinate I'm really curious about it. How would you explain the line not going all the way across the coin? Why is it so deep at the edge but not in between. I'm just trying to learn. The coin is slightly bent and there is minor damage on the obverse side but it's not cut like the reverse
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Perhaps someone tried to cut it in half with a multi-cutter like this one.
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Snips are a strong possibility, but it's also possible that the coin was caught in a vending machine or some other equipment.
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