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 Posted 01/03/2011  06:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add interest to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been lead to believe that there are fakes of this coin.
Do the fakes have the "Die Crack" that extends from the rim through D as in DOL, up to & through the olive branch. as per the image.
How do you tell fakes of this coin?
DIE CRACK
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Any information would be greatly appreciated
Any guesses as to the worth of this coin?
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 Posted 01/03/2011  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can you give us an accruate weight and diameter of the coin? This coin should weigh 26.73 and be 38.1 MM in diameter. this is always a good place to start for authntication.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add interest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would it be the same size & weight as a 1921 Morgan dollar?
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 Posted 01/03/2011  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Morgan dollar is the same size and weight.

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 Posted 01/03/2011  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Date looks wrong, imho.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the date looks suspect. I also don't like the look of the rim.

Here is a link to a certified example of that date coin:

http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dol...r_dollar.htm

Based on those images, I am afraid that your coin is likely a counterfeit/fake.
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01/03/2011 08:39 am
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 Posted 01/03/2011  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a fake to me.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not likely a fake, definitely a fake. You don't have to look at anything else, the date is TOTALLY wrong.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Looks like a fake to me.



unfortunately...


Sorry!
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it's a counterfeit. the numerals and letters are not the right style and the entire design looks soft.
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Hopefully you did not purchase this as a real coin. If you did you should contact the seller and try to get your money back.

I'd speculate that fake dies were generated from a real Seated dollar and that coin had a die crack which was replicated on the new die. Many duplicate dies could have been created, with a variety of dates engraved on them. The date digits are often the easiest marker for detecting counterfeits.

A real example in this grade would be worth around $500.
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 Posted 01/03/2011  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a real one I got from Brian Greer:

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While the coin you have is in much better condition, the date is completely bogus. IF it's silver it might be worth $20, if not about it's worth about a dime.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 01/03/2011  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add interest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is how the Cancer of fake coins spread!
I have never intentionalyy bought a fake coin, but yet I now have one.
I live in Australia, I bought two pages of World Coins, only cost me $10.00.
(see image) Lots of American coins, includeing the 1865 dollar & the 1921 dollar.

The 1921 dollar is real, it is heavier & the metal looks & feels different. When you hit the 1921 with another coin you get a "TINK" but when you hit the 1865 with another coin you get a "CLUNK"
The date is a definite give away compared to the real coin.
The Die Crack & chip out of the rim made me hope that it was real.
As you can see there is no "COPY" stamped on coin.
I was going to on sell it through ebay.
DAMN,, thanks for all your input & saving me the embarrassment.
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