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Hi drnsreedhar,

Thank you so much for your great work that let us know about the history of and all other aspects about the Indian coins/rupees. Your systematic descriptions about the different monarchs of Mughal Empire intrigues me about the history of India too. That is what a genuine numismatist should do - let other people know about our history through sharing our private collections. Your work must be deeply honoured by your audience.

I also collect rupees but mainly modern or near modern rupees that from differet locations/countries/colonies. I have about 40 silver rupees from over 10 locations (past and present). There is an old silver rupee that I can't read about and want you to make a comment of the legend on the coin, drnsreedhar.

The following points that I want to clarify are :

Was it from Shah Alam II, reganl yr. 44 (1803-4)? Are the inscriptions in Persian type? Was the it an issue under the protectorate by France? I bought it a few years ago in a HK numismatic shop by HK$130.00 only. Weight of this coin is 11.28 grams.

Thanks for any comments. I hope the orientations of the coin are alright, otherwise, please correct me. Henry



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This is surely an issue of the French protectorate issued in the name of Shah Alam-2, the Mughal. The crescent mint mark signifies it being struck at the Pondicherry mint. Mint name is usually given as Arkat. I have tried to annotate it.Hope it will be useful. The regnal year is 43. That is 1216-1217.AH ie,1801-1802.AD. He ruled from 1174-1221.AH(1759-1806.AD)

The script is Persian.

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Thank you drnsreedhar, you are really an expert, also a very knowledgeable and helpful person.
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drnsreedhar,

There are a few follow-up question about this coin.

Was it a rare coin and where was the region of circulation of this coin at that olden days?

Was Persian script a common calligraphy used in minting coins at that time?

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This was in circulation in the regions around Pondicherry,Machhlipatnam,Mahe and a few other places where they had holdings. They lost most of their territories in their war with the British.

This coin is a scarce one and brings a premium in higher conditions.

Persian was the script used in contemporary coins. Mughal coins, Sultanate coins of Delhi, Gujarat, Malwa, Bahmani, Kashmir, Khandesh, Bengal, Kalpi etc.were issued with similar script.Princely state coins that followed this period also had Persian script either completely or partially.

It is interesting to note that most Princely states continued to use this script until independence in 1947.
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wow, what an amazing thread drnsreedhar! I've started to dabble in ancient indian coins but these Mughal coins are great. fantastic showcase of a great collection!
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Hello drnsreedhar,

I have another old silver rupee that I don't understand. The knowledge that I know is written below:

This is a silver rupee from Bombay Presidency, it is by hammered coinage. It should be produced before British's occupation of Bombay. The mint year is 1736. This rupee was used in West Indian trade. The coin's weight is 11.51 grams. Can you tell me more about this coin, drnsreedhar?



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This was struck in the name of Muhammad shah, the Mughal (1718-1748.AD)from the Surat mint. The lower image is of the obverse. The regnal year 19 is there on the reverse. This is the nineteenth year of accession of Muhammad shah that is 1718+19=1737. Since the regnal year is based on Anne Hijera, it can fall in two A.D years, 1736 and 1737. Hijeri year of issue is there below the name of the ruler on the obverse.Accession date is 1131 AH. Hence 1131+19=1150. It can be 1149 or 1150 AH. The date on the coin is not clear enough to read, but it looks like 114x, the last numeral being off flan. But since there is 4 as its third digit, it is 1149 AH.(1736-1737.AD).So you are right about the AD date of the coin.


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Thank you drnsreedhar, a really expert in Indian coins!
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Nice historic piece - I have one of these too...
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