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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your picture is better than the seller's. Nice.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Nice bust - very youthful looking.
I guess it would be considering he only ruled between the ages of about 4 and 21!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks guys! And bobby, about the youthful-looking bust, well that brings me to a question: how are they able to tell if a Val coin is Val I or Val II? Would it be that if the bust looks young, it would be Val II?
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Pillar of the Community
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On these coins I dont know Jango, my knowledge is zero unfortunately - I've only just started picking up coins that date from after Constantine to increase it and eventually get to the later Byzantine coins that echizento has got me interested in.
TBH I'm finding a lot of confusion with them - I bought 4 'Constantius Gallus' coins last week and three of them turned out to be Constantius II. I've also received a lot of 'Constantius IIs' that were Constantine I or IIs.
I would guess that most can be IDed to the correct Emperor with the legends but yes, in cases of clashes its the bust styles that are the key.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A trick: At that time it was considered a sign of higher station if the obverse legend on your coins was broken with a gap over the head. Valentinian I was never less the #1 full honors Augustus so his legends are always broken. Valentinian II was a kid when he was made Augustus and most of his coins show a continuous arc of legend with no break at the top. He had some broken ones near the end but by then they were all reverses never used by Valentinian I. Starting with Valentinian's dynasty they stopped making kids Caesar and gave them the full title of Augustus but the legend splits show whether a coin comes from the time that the ruler was actually ruling or just a 'name' on a coin. This trick also works for Gratian whose first coins are continuous and last ones are split legend. The best way to identify any coin of this period is to look up the reverse type and see who used that reverse. You need not consider a ruler who did not use a type so you can often narro it down to a couple or three with little effort. The easy place to do this research is Warren Esty's site: http://esty.ancients.info/ricix/Constantius II types were used by his Caesars Constantius Gallus and Julian II who were always shown with a bare head and a legend ending in some abbreviation of Noble Caesar. Julian's name is different enough that you can usually get a letter or two and know the coin is his. Gallus is only confused with Constantius II by those who forget that any form of diadem or other headgear means the coin belongs to Constantius II. I am shocked at how many dealers have trouble with that one.
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Valued Member
United States
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One of the nicest V2's I think I've ever seen - great find
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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In light of all the recent coin price-guessing, I'm curious as to what you all would guess on my nice Val 2. Thanks! :)
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: A trick: At that time it was considered a sign of higher station if the obverse legend on your coins was broken with a gap over the head. A good bit of advice - if only most sellers used these types of things when IDing later coins. If they were all accurate though I bet fewer bargains could be found, I guess its a double edged sword! Price-wise I have no idea Jango, as said before these coins are all new to me, interested to see what others say though!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I did read somewhere that legend breaks could symbolise that the subject was 'closer to god' than the subject of an unbroken coin. Not sure how much truth is in this and how much is theory though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since I started the guess game, I should also play along with yours, right? I dunno, I haven't looked at Val II coins in a long time. I have three Val II coins, each of which I paid under $5, but they are not in the same great shape as yours. So let me guess. $15 plus shipping?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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All right, the guessing game has been marinating too long without another guess, so I'll reveal the price: $12.53, shipping included.
Edited by VisigothKing 11/18/2011 10:02 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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That's a fair price, especially when you consider the amount of time it takes to attribute, restore, list, and ship out a coin. It can be disheartening to put so much effort into it and end up not making anything. But, sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: $12.53, shipping included Great deal - nice one Jango.
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