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 Posted 12/06/2011  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
I believe it to be RIV VI 55b: Maximianus AE Follis. Struck circa 305 AD. Ticinum mint. IMP C MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right / FIDES M-I-LITVM, Fides seated left, holding two standards. I will have to look further to find the T crescent T in exergue, but it is definitely Ticinum mint.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list

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are you sure it is Maximianus?


You are correct. It could easily be Galerius. I always forget the same legends were used for both. It could also be Galerius RIC 55b, but again I will have to look further for the exergue.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
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I also believe it's Galerius.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
OK, it could easily be Galerius or Maximianus. When I compare the bust types for both, it seems to match Maximianus better than Galerius. But that is all I have to go on. I have been searching for the T cresent T but have exhausted my resources for the moment.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Found the reference, Galerius RIC VI 59b, Ticinum, issue of 306 AD.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
BTW, nice coin. Good detail especially on the obverse.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
I think this is RIC VI 60 Ticinum, Galerius as Augustus (page 290).

Follis, Group III (25th July 306 to Autumn 307) from Ticinum workshop No. 3.

Fides seated holding standard in each hand.

Its a very nice coin Stefano, I've not seen many of these but really like yours, nice find.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johncash to your friends list
Thanks for the valuable information ...But I have a question, this coin is rare or common?

Thanks. Stefano
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 Posted 12/06/2011  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
RIC classes it as 'R' for 'rare'. While RICs classifications need to be understood for what they actually are it is still a recognised classification.

I would certainly not call your coin common, its also a good size and weight and well stamped and centred. Apart from very small bits of the legend on the edge of the flan its in very good condition with a nice dark patina.

I would probably only go as far as to call it 'un-common' or 'scarce' but its nice and I bet I'm not the only one who would find it desirable.
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Oh, and
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 Posted 12/06/2011  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
you betcha
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Can anyone explain why this coin is a Galerius when it clearly says Maximianus?
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 Posted 12/06/2011  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list
Galerius' full name is Gaius Galerius Valerius Maximianus Augustus. See where it comes from now? Makes for an interesting time trying to differentiate them from Maximianus coins. You saw that problem above!
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 Posted 12/06/2011  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
Galerius is the name modern folks choose to call Gaius Galerius Valerius Maximianus while we use the name Maximianus for Marcus Aurelius Valerius Maximianus. Both men used the name Maximianus on their coins. Sometimes each used more of the name on coins making it clear but sometimes they used only the Maximianus portion leaving coin collectors to figure it out. The only real answer is to find a coin in the catalog. In some cases the scholars had to consider such things as weight standards to separate similar issues so this is a bit of a problem for a lot of us. Most are easy but some are not. I have a page:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...ith/max.html

This sort of thing sometimes leads us to assign numerals but why we didn't go with Maximianus II I can not say. Since there is also a Maximinus II (no a), that would have done little good when it comes to making all this easy.

Such matters are not limited to the Maxes. Consider there were two emperors who issued coins with legends reading Antoninus Pius (Caracalla and Elagabalus - neither of which names was ever written on coins) but the ruler we call Antoninus Pius used legends reading Antoninus Augustus Pius but not just Antoninus Pius. We need to remember that modern historians don't always choose the same names exactly as preferred in the day by the actual emperors but sometimes change things to make things easier for them.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
Now I understand why. I believe I'm going to start looking at an emperor's full name now. I can see why it's very confusing and it was for me a moment ago. I did try to attribute the coin but found no matches under Maximianus.

I will be on the lookout if I should run into this situation again. Not saying I will figure it out, but at least I have an idea.

Thanks for the link. I assume this is your site? It's very good and I've learned quite a bit from the few pages I've managed to read and that was quite a few.
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