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NGC Variety Database Has No Record Of This One?

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 Posted 01/24/2012  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
I am another...to recommend ANACS for Variety attribution!
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 Posted 01/24/2012  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlipOfACoin to your friends list
I should be able to submit directly to ANACS through my ANA membership, right?
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 Posted 01/24/2012  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
Anyone can submit to anacs, there is no special club or group to join to submit.

http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/F...kieSupport=1
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 Posted 01/24/2012  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Where is Wheezy? (or did he change his screename?), he is one of the resident Nickel experts.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
NGC and PCGS only attribute certain varities, ANACS and SEGS seem to handle the rest, ANACS has really tightened up their standards lately on grades, SEGS coins seem harder to sell in the market and generally bring a grade lower than on the holder, no matter how nice the coin is. Weird but that's the way it goes.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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should be able to submit directly to ANACS through my ANA membership, right?


ANA started ANACS, but no longer is connected. ANA is tied in with NGC.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list

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If I send the coin in to NGC and they agree that the coin is a D/D or a D/D/D, will NGC attribute the variety even though they do not recognize the variety in their 'Variety Plus' database?

No, if they do not recognize the variety they will not put it on the holder. The variety will have to be recognized by an "expert" and given a number before NGC, PCGS or ANACS will recognize it. ANACS may call it a D/D but it will not have a catalog number or anything until one of those "experts" gives it one. To be honest until it gets a catalog number, error collectors will not pay any extra for the coin if sold either, so nno real reason to pay the extra cost of resending it in just to get d/d until it does have a number assigned
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 Posted 01/25/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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The variety will have to be recognized by an "expert" and given a number before NGC, PCGS or ANACS will recognize it.

And even then there is a good chance they will not recognize it. There are a TON of varieties out there that the experts have identified and given catalog numbers to that neither PCGS or NGC will recognize. NGC decides how "important" they think the variety is, and if they deem it worthy they will ignore the experts catalog numbers and give it a number of their own and that is the number that will appear on the holder. So even if it is identified, it's not identified because they don't normally use the recognized catalog numbers.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlipOfACoin to your friends list
WOW! Talk about 'red-tape' and bureaucracy: Why does it have to be so difficult? I would think everything would be a lot more manageable, effective and collector friendly if the various parties involved would get on the same sheet of music.

Since it is apparently not cost effective to have this coin, or the 1954-S/S (also posted in this forum), graded by a TPG, I decided to list them in my webstore. Perhaps someone will find them interesting...

On the other hand, I also listed in this forum a 1968-S/S (NGC POP of 1) on which no one has made a comment. I wonder if I should send that coin in to the TPGs?

Oh well, thank you everyone for your extremely informative insight and guidance in what I should do with this (and the other) coin. I appreciate your thoughts very much!
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 Posted 01/26/2012  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I just see a normal mint mark with some die movement. Not the rim to the right of the mint mark. The rim is pushed there also. (third image)
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 Posted 01/26/2012  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
I would email Dr Wiles at http://www.varietyvista.com and ask him. He will assign a new # to it, if it is a new one.

And if no luck there try J.T. Stanton or Bill Faviz.

Or conecaonline.com, but I think Dr Wiles is maintaining that.

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01/26/2012 3:32 pm
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Coop: I just see a normal mint mark with some die movement. Not the rim to the right of the mint mark


I am confused. You are not able to see the 2 distinct, vertical lines on the left of the MM, where the 'top' D is shifted to the east of the 'bottom' D?

To me it clearly looks like the MM was stamped more than one time. How can I best tell the difference between an OMM / RPM and a 'shifted die?'

Either way, the coin was not produced how it was intended to be produced, right?
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 Posted 01/26/2012  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlipOfACoin to your friends list

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Wquinn: I would email Dr Wiles at http://www.varietyvista.com and ask him. He will assign a new # to it, if it is a new one.


Thanks for the tip! I will give it a try.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
You're welcome and good luck. Let us know how you do.

It is always interesting to hear people finding new varieties. I just hope to be one of those people someday.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list
There may be some isolated Machine Doubling involved here as well. I do not think that it is a RPM. Also, ICG is a great company for encapsulating error and variety coins. I use them exclusively and have never had a complaint.

BJ Neff
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