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The Beauty Of The Late Byzantine Coins

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 Posted 02/11/2012  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

The drawings are good--they help me visualize what is present on actual coins.
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 Posted 02/11/2012  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
If they only looked as good as the drawings, I think more people would be inclined to collect them.
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 Posted 02/11/2012  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list


The more I see Byzantines the more I consider acquiring a few. I agree with DV! The drawing really help!

I really like the the desert patina one!
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 Posted 02/11/2012  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list
, a close family friend of ours is from Bulgaria, it is true that the laws there are insane according to her.
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 Posted 02/11/2012  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Not entirely sure about Bulgaria, but I know that some European countries generally have laws that regulate the ownership and transport of ancient coins.
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ALEXIUS I , COMNENUS
POST-REFORM COINAGE / 1092 -- 1118 /

2. 3. 7. A
Billon Aspron Trachy Mint of Const.(Philippopolis ?) Struck 1092 -- 1118
Weight 3.80 -- 3.90 g Diameter 25-31 mm Avg diameter 28 mm
Die diameter 21 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš Rarity 1


References: Hendy, p.87, Pl. 7. ---;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. VI, B. (31) .
Grierson ---; Sear 1936.

Notes: This type has high silver content, or has substantial silver plating. The top of the labarum always has a pellet in the middle. In most specimens, the labarum and the emperor's head are proportional to the body, but in other specimens the labarum and head are slightly oversized. There is no concrete evidence to support the suggestions in older numismatic literature that this issue is from the Philippopolis mint -- or that there ever was a mint in Philippopolis. The assumption that these were struck in Philippopolis is primarily based on the major stylistic similarity between this type and the rare hyperpyron numisma, originally found near Plovdiv (2. 1. 5), Sear 1935. It is highly probable some of the dies of both denominations were made by a single die-cutter. But surely the specimens of 2. 3. 6. Ð'. circulated widely in all Bulgaria and cannot be localized only near Plovdiv. For the time being, the question for the mint for both A and B variants remains open. The authors suggest these two variants of 2. 3. 6. type to be separated, as based on stylistic and metric features, we determine variant A (with a standard labarum) as a possible issue of the Constantinople mint.


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ALEXIUS I , COMNENUS
POST-REFORM COINAGE / 1092 -- 1118 /

2. 4. 7
AE Tetarteron Mint of Thessalonica Struck 1092 -- 1118
Weight 2.90 -- 3.90 g Diameter 20-21 mm Avg diameter 20 mm
Die diameter 18 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš Rarity 1

References: Hendy, p.88, Pl. 8. 10 - 12;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. VII, AE 40.
Grierson 1057; Sear 1931.


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JOHN II, COMNENUS
/ 1118 -- 1143 /

3. 3. 2.
Billon Aspron Trachy. Mint of Constantinople. Struck 1118 -- 1143.
Weight 3.20 -- 5.00 g. Diameter 25-29 mm, average diameter 26 mm.
Die diameter 18 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš. Rarity 1.


OBVERSE: IC XC in field. Bust of Christ, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, blesses with right hand in front of chest, and holds Gospels in left hand.

REVERSE: circular legend +IWÐ"ECПOTT on left, ПФVPOÐ"NHT or var. on right. Bust of emperor, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece and loros; holds in right hand scepter cruciger, and in left, globus cruciger.

References: Hendy, p.105, Pl. 10. 9 -- 11, Pl. 11. 1, 2;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. IX, B. 10;
Grierson 1070; Sear 1944.



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JOHN II, COMNENUS
/ 1118 -- 1143 /

3. 4. 6.
AE Half-tetarteron. Mint of Thessalonica. Struck 1118 -- 1143.
Weight 1.50 -- 2.90 g. Diameter 16 - 17 mm;
Die diameter 15 - 16 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš. Rarity 1.


OBVERSE: columnar legend O/DI/MI (or H) on left, T/PI/O/s. Bust of Saint Demetrius, beardless and nimbate, wearing lamellar body armour with pteryges, and mantle; holds in right hand sword, and in left, shield.

REVERSE: circular legend (+)IW on left, D(E)C on right. Bust of emperor, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece, and panelled loros of simplified type; holds in right hand labarum-headed scepter, and in left, globus cruciger.

References: Hendy, p. 107, Pl. 11. 15 - 17;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. X, AE 17;
Grierson 1078; Sear 1955.



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 Posted 02/19/2012  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PunkReaper to your friends list
Lovely drawings....
Wonder what other countries have it illegal to collect ancient coins....?
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Catalogue of the Late Byzantine Coins, vol. 1 (2011)

MANUEL I, COMNENUS
(1143 -- 1180)

4. 2. 3

Electrum Aspron Trachy Mint of Constantinople Struck 1150 -- 1180
Weight 4.10 -- 4.50 g Diameter 29-32 mm Avg diameter 30 mm
Die diameter 21 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš Rarity 1


OBVERSE: IC XC in field. Full-length figure of Christ, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion; blesses with right hand in front of chest, holds Gospels in left. Two eight-pointed stars in field.

REVERSE: circular legend MANOVHL on left, columnar legend O/TE/O/D/O/P/(O/S) or var. on right. Full-length figure of emperor, bearded, on left, and of St. Theodore, bearded and nimbate, holding between them patriarchal cross on long shaft at the base of which a large globe. Emperor wears stemma, divitision, collar-piece, and jewelled loros of simplified type; holds sheathed sword in his right hand. Saint wears chiton, lamellar body armour with pteryges, and mantle; holds sheathed sword in his left hand.

References: Hendy, p. 113-114, Pl. 13. 5 - 9;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. XII, El. 4.
Grierson 1083, 1084; Sear 1959.



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Catalogue of the Late Byzantine Coins, vol. 1 (2011)


MANUEL I, COMNENUS
(1143 -- 1180)

4. 3. 1

Billon Aspron Trachy Mint of Constantinople Struck 1143 -- 1147
Weight 2.90 - 4.20 g Diameter 28-31 mm Avg diameter 30 mm
Die diameter 21 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš Rarity 1


OBVERSE: IC XC in field. Bust of young Christ, beardless and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, blesses with right hand in front of chest, and holds scroll in left.

REVERSE: circular legend MANOVHL on left, DECP(T) or var. on right. Bust of emperor, beardless, wearing stemma, divitision, and chlamys; holds in right hand labarum-headed scepter, and in left, globus cruciger.

References: Hendy, p.116, Pl. 14. 10 - 13;
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. XIII, B.10.
Grierson 1087; Sear 1962.



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Catalogue of the Late Byzantine Coins, vol. 1 (2011)


MANUEL I, COMNENUS
(1143 -- 1180)

4. 4. 5

AE Tetarteron Mint of Thessalonica Struck 1143 -- 1180
Weight 3.30 - 5.40 g Diameter 20 - 22 mm Avg diameter 21 mm
Die diameter 19 mm Die axis -- 180 Ëš Rarity 1



OBVERSE: columnar legend O/G/E on left, O/P/GI/(OC) on right. Rarely, O/P is not on right, but on the left field. Bust of St. George, beardless and nimbate, wearing chiton, body armour with pteryges, and cloak; holds in right hand short spear, and in left, rounded shield.

REVERSE: circular legend MANOVHL on left, DECP(OTHC) or var. on right. Bust of emperor, bearded, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece, and loros; holds in right hand labarum-headed scepter, and in left, globus cruciger,

References: Hendy, p.120, Pl. 17. 13, 14, "Heavy standard".
DOC IV, Part II, Pl. XVI, AE 18.
Grierson 1101; Sear 1975.



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 Posted 05/15/2012  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Here is one of my coins of  Alexius I over Nicephorus III. 
Anonymous class "k" bust of Christ / 3/4 length of virgin. 6gms 21mm
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The drawings make it easier to see the details for these coins especially since some of them can be an overstruck mess.
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Quote:
Wonder what other countries have it illegal to collect ancient coins....?

Pretty much every country that once was host to an ancient civilization has passed laws prohibiting or restricting the buying, selling, exporting and collecting of antiquities, which includes coins. Italy, Greece, Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and Israel are notable for their strict anti-looting laws; some are more draconian than others. Most Eastern European states (such as Bulgaria) have similar laws, though until recently most have shown little interest in enforcing them.

Now back to the topic of these coins. I have to admit, I often shy away from late Byzantine coins and spend my money elsewhere, simply because I'm not familiar with the series and because of the typically poor condition of the coins themselves. Seeing line-drawings certainly helps one appreciate the artwork of the coins "as they should have been".

And just a question I have on your catalogue: will you be including the coins some of the Byzantine-style "fringe states", such as Bulgaria, Trebizond and Serbia? I've noticed reference material covering Trebizond coinage, in particular, to be hard to find.
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