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Fake 1877 IHC?

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 Posted 03/06/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list

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This is what scares me about buying raw coins online!


This coin should never be bought raw unless you know what to look for and, from a reputable dealer.

I reported it too.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjtm92 to your friends list
Exactly! I'm pretty sure he owns a pawn shop, or something similar. If you look at the items he has for sale, it's a bunch of tools and electronics. The same kind of stuff you would find at a store like that.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list

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Exactly! I'm pretty sure he owns a pawn shop, or something similar. If you look at the items he has for sale, it's a bunch of tools and electronics. The same kind of stuff you would find at a store like that.


That's what I'm getting from his other listing, along with predator as a name, he probably drops a couple of high dollar coins every month hoping to score big.

As stated before THIS IS A FAKE COIN! Run away.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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f you report something as fake on ebay do you have to prove it?

No you don't HAVE to prove it, but ebay is MUCH MUCH more likely to do something about it if you do. You have to remember that the people at ebay aren't able to determine for themselves that it is fake, and you really can't expect them to pull an auction just because someone says it's fake with no proof. On the other hand if you can tell them in detail WHY it is fake they are much more likely to pull it. For example if you tell them that "This coin, even when new, ALWAYS comes with the lower right corner on the N in ONE fading into the field but on this coin it is sharp and clear." They are much more likely to pull the auction.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list
Man, I'm sad for the poor bloke who's gonna get this if ebay doesn't pull it.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Bidding is currently at $755.78 for this scrap of bronze.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list
Some people need to do some research



Fake-1877-IHC?

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 Posted 03/07/2012  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Apollo--that's exactly it; collectors need to be informed.
That's why I also try to document these fakes, comparing them to the real deal.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
I reported it as well
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Bidding is currently at $755.78 for this scrap of bronze.

Woah, woah. Slow down there. I don't think we have any reason to be sure... that it's made of bronze.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I can laugh about it now--because ebay yanked the auction.
Glad I captured pics of the fake, in case it gets listed again.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Glad I captured pics of the fake, in case it gets listed again.
Good call. I am sure it will turn up again.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
I'm glad ebay removed the auction. And you know it'll turn up again somewhere.

I did a search for seller on predator and it didn't find anything. Is this a new seller or something?
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 Posted 03/07/2012  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
What about these two?

Not exactly sure on this one though:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-INDIAN...t_500wt_1282

But this looks like a fake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-INDIAN...t_500wt_1282
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 Posted 03/07/2012  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
The first listing pictured is an "1877" with a "bold N" reverse. The date is nearly unreadable.
Perhaps the seller will claim it's a "distressed proof", but there's no benefit of doubt here--get it authenticated. The second may be corroded--or just cast and patina applied--the same rule applies here.
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