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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Along with the possiblity of being counterfeit, they all look like they were cleaned... with a brillo pad.... sorry...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Aye the bottom two counterfeits are circulating everywhere. The other two don't look promising, but hey check the weight and check a magnet. :-)
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Valued Member
Canada
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to my eye, they all look genuine- the denticles are all there, the stroke are correct, the colour is silver, not some nameless alloy. The coins are all silver, so silver value as a minimum. The Japanese one is worth at least $45, the Pei Yang Dllar at least $75 ( many more valuable varieties, which I can't look up at the moment), and the Sun Yat Sen dollar is a Minimum $15, probably more as silver. (Prices are for XF coins)
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Wow. Thanks everyone! So much help and useful information. You guys are amazing.
None of the coins react to the magnet. is that a good sign?
Thanks SVSLAV for the warm greetings.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Ok Everyone I have weighted them out and here it is:
1. Austria 1780-X thaler (restrike) - 28.1 grams
2. Japan 1912 (Meiji year 45) yen - 26.5 grams
3. Empire of China,Chihli province, 1908 dollar - 27 grams
4. Republic of China 1933 dollar - 26.70 grams.
What are the chances of the first coin being the rare restrike?
Thanks again
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I wouldn't write them all off just now. They all deserve investigation, despite a real risk of them being counterfeit.
All opinions expressed here are a good start. Keep 'em coming!
My addition to the effort of investigation is advise to do a comparison ring test with known genuine coins.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks Sel 691 for the info. but do you mean a "ring test" comparison?
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New Member
United Kingdom
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I meant "what do you mean" ....:)
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Simple test: Just balance the coin in question on the tip of a finger and tap the edge of it with another coin, and listen carefully. Do the same with a known genuine coin of the same type, and compare the ringing tones they emit.
NOTE: Carry this test over a multi layered blanket or similar, because of the almost certainty that the coin will fall. Some skill needs to be developed to prevent them from falling, but not a problem, if the landing is soft!
If you haven't got a similar genuine coin to compare, take them to a dealer who has. Besides, you will probably get another opinion on the coin in question as well!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Wow guys.
I am getting excited with all of this as this coins are up to the standard of everything I seeing mentioned in terms of being a fake or not!
But I will not get my hopes high tho.
If anyone knows a place in london that can check the credibility of theses coins and are trustworthy please let me know.
Thanks a million again and again.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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This are the measurement of the Thaler 39.5 mm diameter and 2.5mm thick
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Valued Member
Canada
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The chances of the Maria Theresa Taler being a restrike from other than the Austrian Mint are pretty remote- but there were several different restrikes from several different mints. http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=52868 is a topic from the forum which deals with the variety restrikes. Please remember, if it was struck at the Austrian mint, it is also a restrike, as well. However, this restrike is extremely common, being made by the millions each year. The X certifies a restrike. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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London has a lot of good coin dealers.
If you wish to compare your coins with known genuine ones, London is one of the best cities in the World to locate a coin dealer to find comparison coins.
Try a 'phone ring around explaining your your coins and and take them to a dealer you have chosen. Scan a commercial telephone book for advertisments of coin dealers, to choose which dealers you ring. A comprehensive commercial telephone book for London can be located in Post offices.
If I were to visit London again, I would perhaps do a 'Pub Crawl' with my friends, but I would do a 'Coin Dealer Crawl' by myself over a couple of days, just for my own numismatic entertainment!
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