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Another 20 Dollar Winner (Constans Phoenix)

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 Posted 05/07/2012  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
thanks gang

... I think the Phoenix is a pretty cool reverse

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 Posted 05/07/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
I saw this very coin while browsing online not too long ago. Nice pickup
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 Posted 05/07/2012  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
I've been wanting a Phoenix reverse since I first saw they existed. This a nice one.
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 Posted 05/08/2012  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
The Phoenix
Weighing half as much as the large (AE2) coins and containing only a trace (accidental?) of silver, these could not have been valued at over half the middle denomination. Obverses were right facing busts of either Constantius II or Constans but the type was discontinued before the first issues of Gallus and Julian. The Phoenix coins were issued by ten mints in two major varieties. Six mints show the phoenix standing on a globe while five used a pile of stones (pyre). Thessalonica issued coins of both varieties. Symbol of rebirth, the Phoenix type seems particularly appropriate for a series of coins issued on the 1100th anniversary of the founding of Rome.
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 Posted 05/08/2012  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Thanks Doug ... very interesting (as always ... you really are the King of the Mint-info, eh?) ...

=> curious, are these Phoenix reverses "a-dime-a-dozen", or are they somewhat rare? ... I'm asking for I haven't seen too many of them, but perhaps I'm merely looking in the wrong spots?

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 Posted 05/08/2012  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
nice coin I dont have that style yet but here is my phoenix coin I picked up for a few dollars. My bird has long legs and a long neck. Another-20-Dollar-Winner-Constans-Phoenix
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 Posted 05/08/2012  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
That is a nice coin. I saw a couple of them for a decent price. Was thinking about purchasing one but found some emperors I wanted. lol

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 Posted 05/08/2012  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
I'm working on cleaning up one of these now, have been working on it for over a month. I couldn't figure out what in the heck was on the back as I was removing the dirt and only seeing small portions show through, thought I saw a pyramid, and thought the sun was a rooster comb on the bird. My first idea was "a pyramid chicken?".



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nice coin by the way stevex!
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05/08/2012 11:48 am
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 Posted 05/08/2012  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
Who knows what it could be on the reverse. It's called a mound in the attribution. Looks like a pyramid but I think it's a pyre that isn't on fire.
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 Posted 05/08/2012  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Coiled up snake? Probably not but IDK just a guess.
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 Posted 05/08/2012  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
chrsmat71 => amazing detail on your pyramid chicken (you must be very proud)
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 Posted 05/08/2012  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
jessvc1 => if you have the awesome book ERIC-II, you'll find both of our coins on page-993 (the book is awesome!!)

=> your coin is #30

=> my coin is #31
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 Posted 05/08/2012  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
here's my "pyramid chicken", didn't come out great, but ok for a uncleaned lot coin. the reverse looks better than the picture. not as good as the ones you guys posted though...


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 Posted 05/09/2012  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
whoomp, there it is!!

=> yup, it looks like it's the same variety as my phoenix (chicken on a pile of stones => pyre)

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 Posted 05/09/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I don't have ERIC II yet but it's on my list. How does this book compare to other books. I have roman coins and their values by sear and the RIC's volumes on my computer. They have lots of helpful information, I also have the Whitman handbook of Greek and roman coins and the ancient coin collecting series by Wayne G. Sales which are all nice reading material. Is the ERIC II more like the RIC series? I've heard lots of good stuff on this book but just haven't had the money to spend on it yet.
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