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1962 DDO Lincoln Memorial Cent?

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 Posted 02/25/2007  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
I have no clue about the doubling, but I do know that you will need to provide pics of the entire obverse and reverse for grading.
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 Posted 02/25/2007  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n_sandler4 to your friends list
I believe it is Die Deterioration Doubling....not worth much I don't think.
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 Posted 02/25/2007  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peachymargarita to your friends list
If I remember correctly Die Deterioration happens mostly on nickles. This appears to be Mechanical Doubling.

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 Posted 02/25/2007  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n_sandler4 to your friends list
Ok, I believe you are correct. I thought I saw a secondary image around all of the 9 in the date, but it was only on one side.

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 Posted 02/25/2007  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike28 to your friends list
tights24, I am sorry, DUH! well if I find out it is a double die then I will post pictures of both sides but as of right now everyone seems to be leaning away from it BUT I will say compared to pictures I have of a 1962 DDO mine is very similiar ecspecially with the nose and the RU in trust.
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 Posted 02/25/2007  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieVarieties to your friends list
I agree with sandler4, it is Die Deterioration Doubling.
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 Posted 02/25/2007  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n_sandler4 to your friends list
Ok...so I was right, then said I was wrong...now I'm right again? lol
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 Posted 02/25/2007  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieVarieties to your friends list
I'm not taking sides of who is right or wrong. I only "agree" that what I am seeing from the photos is Die Deterioration Doubling.

As with any suspected/possible variety, the coin needs to be actually examined to make a final determination.
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 Posted 02/25/2007  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike28 to your friends list
this one has thrown me off because around the bowtie and below does look totally different than a regular cent, I am guessing Die Deterioration? but what made me think it could be the DDO is the doubling on the nose and the doubling on RU matched the book pretty good, the date has some doubling also but wasnt sure about it, here is a closer pictures of top of the U in TRUST,this is what made me suspect it in the first place.

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 Posted 02/26/2007  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
Seems like you're getting good feedback. I would certainly be interested to see what Coppercoins thinks prior to making a decision though....
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 Posted 02/26/2007  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Die Deterioration Doubling does not just happen on nickels - it can happen on any coin from any denomination. This, however, is not Die Deterioration Doubling. This is Machine Doubling. Die detarioration doubling is the result of pieces of the die chipping away leaving more cavity for the metal of the planchet to fill. This results in extra thickness of the letters, usually all the way around. Machine Doubling is the simple result of a die bouncing affecting the edges of the letters. No extra thickness, no die chipping involved.

This die is very worn, but the doubling is on the face of the normal letters, nothing added to them - Machine Doubling.
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 Posted 02/26/2007  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peachymargarita to your friends list
Not trying to bog this thread down but is my original opinion that deterioration happens MOSTLY on nickles correct?

That is to say I have not come across any Die Deterioration on a cent as of yet.

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 Posted 02/28/2007  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Yes, true...I was tired and for some reason read "only on nickels" - you are correct, my bad. Nickels are the most common because the metal is the hardest of all used to strike coins. The dies tend to deteriorate much faster than with other denominations. I have seen it on cents, but it's kinda scarce. I have never seen it on silver or gold. Most common other than Jefferson and Buffalo nickels--clad Washington quarters.
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 Posted 03/02/2007  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Still at coin shows these do sell for more than a normal coin of the same date and grade. Example is the 55 Poor man's Lincoln that I've seen for well into the $20 range lately. At coin shows I've been going to lately ALL error coins are becoming expensive and there is one dealer that sells mothing but errors at one show. He has many like this and not cheap.
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 Posted 03/07/2007  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
And this is because there are a number of dealers who have no clue selling them to collectors who have no clue. The 1955 "poor man's" doube is dirt common and extremely easy to find. It is a mere result of die fatigue, and a large number of 1955 cents were minted using very fatigued dies. Nearly a fourth of all 1955 cents sold by the same dealers marked and priced as normal coins would qualify as the "poor man's" double coins if they just looked at them.

I have been through roll after roll of 1955 cents looking for the true doubled dies and have seen more of the "poor man's" double coins than I have normal ones. Need any?
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