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Valued Member
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eBay's fees are no worse and sometimes better than those you would pay at an auction house.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2077 Posts |
Don't have exact figures, but final value fees have gone up considerably in the last decade. And the new change of charging fees on the shipping really bugs me. I know that a lot of people abused the system by making their items nearly free with huge shipping charges, but the main issue was that ebay charged too much for anyone to make money. Apparently ebay doesn't see it that way.
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Valued Member
291 Posts |
Between ebay and PayPal fees, they take about 12%-13%
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Senex is right with a max of 250 being charged. The fee is a little high on lower priced items as they seem to have gotten rid of the fee scale by price.
The shipping one does bother me more though since you lose money every time if you charge actual shipping costs. I'm happy they did implement the new shipping pricer though. Before that if you sold DVDs or video games you couldnt charge more than 3 dollars even if you used tracking so youd be out a buck or 2 everytime. doesn't seem like itd be that hard to have a program that gets rid of BIN items for .01 penny and then 30 dollar shipping which is what got them to start charging shipping fees too, or to just not charge shipping fees on items were a specific shipping method is selected
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2077 Posts |
To top things off, I just got a message from the buyer saying that the set didn't have a 1961-D! I don't think he knows where the mint mark should be.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1590 Posts |
I'm still wrapping my mind around the concept of looking at shipping cost as income. Granted that is exactly what some people did. But legally? When I worked for a major retail company we did a lot of things we knew were illegal. The culture of the time was that we would do it until it cost us more to stop. In other words; until we lost a Court case. And sometimes not even then.
A really silly example. When we opened a new store in California there were some Oak trees on the development site. Now in Ca you can't just cut down a tree, and especially not in Marin county. EACH tree needed its separate assessment statement which typically cost $25,000 EACH. The fine to just cut them down? $250.........
We also settled out of Court a lot. Because if you go to Court and lose...well that's not too bad. But it sets a precedence and if you...heaven forbid...lose a second court battle; the cost can become exponential.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2077 Posts |
If it's shipping and HANDLING then it's perfectly legal as long as it's disclosed.
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Quote: We also settled out of Court a lot. Because if you go to Court and lose...well that's not too bad. But it sets a precedence and if you...heaven forbid...lose a second court battle; the cost can become exponential. Plus the legal fees can be more than the settlement. But I agree shipping shouldnt be treated as income when a legitimate shipping method is selected and its not a type youre own flat rate
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Valued Member
United States
385 Posts |
You guys should try out YardSellr, its a Facebook based social marketplace that allows sellers to sell without any fees. The buyers are the ones that will a pay a small fee (called a Yardsellr slice). In two weeks, I've sold over $300 in coins. Yardsellr also gives you $5 as a free gift when you join, those are in photons, youd have to use them for a discount.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3640 Posts |
Quote: "And for higher-dollar items, they still aren't at the size of the hit you'd be taking from any other major auction house." I used Stacks Bowers on a higher end item and I was very happy with the 5% that they took. Good for a seller but not so great for the buyer (i.e.: buyers premium)So for a change the seller gets a break, unlike at ebay. And also do not forget the 9% that they charge you also on the shipping cost. So figure in that 9% to your own ship charges.
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New Member
United States
17 Posts |
ebay takes about 30% of your profits. They make so much money and everything on there is pretty much chinese knock-offs now. I don't use it if I don't have to
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Locked
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Quote: Ebay takes about 30% of your profits. Where did you pull that number from, you have no clue what my profits are unless you're peeking at my books. If you are referring to fees, they are no where near that, your just making stuff up. (unless you're selling very low dollar items which is just not business smart.) Quote: They make so much money and everything on there is pretty much chinese knock-offs now. There are some, but to claim "pretty much everything" is yet another ludicrous statement.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1590 Posts |
Yeah, I gotta agree. For me it's 9% for ebay, and 3% plus 0.50 dollars for paypal. I normally just "round it" to 13 percent. Except on that occasional item which does really get sold at 99 cents. THEN you take a pounding. My PROFIT is anywhere from "0" to several thousand percent, depending on way too many factors to list here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10038 Posts |
I was on ebay almost the year ut started and sold a lot there. ebay became the giant it was by catering to the desire for people to have the "world's Largest Garage Sale." The prices to list were minimal (like a quarter total). The fees taken on the profit were also a lot lower. You also could contact the second highest (third etc) bidders if you had another of the same object for sale and sell it to them without ebay interfering. THEN they decided to abandon the model that made them so large and became GREEDbay. In the old ebay model, their acquisition of Paypal would been touted as a reason for people to use ebay even more and been a free service. But not nowadays - no - Greedbay now gets you double whammy by charging Paypal fees also. I get a kick out of people who were not around when ebay was a GREAT service standing up for ebay's current greedy and selfish mindset. Just because they lowered their standards to the level of other systems does not mean criticism is not justified when comparing the now Greedbay with the great place ebay was. My personal experience with ebay (for all these years) makes me praise of ebay seem akin to someone telling a victim that everything is just great b/c a thief only took half of the victim's silver and not all of it. The underlying point here is that they ebay COULD (and DID) operate in a much more user friendly way without trying to milk the users for everything they could/can get. I wonder where they would now be had they kept up with the model they had that made them so big. I honestly believe their profits would be even better for them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Earle, it is the "this quarter" syndrome. Corporations don't REALLY look at the long term. For example; I worked for a rather large retail Corporation in..lets just call it Upper Management. When we were a start up company we had this refund policy that you could refund anything that you bought for any reason. Receipt or no receipt. We over took our competitors and soon began playing with the big boys. In a 5 year period we went from a regional company with 31 locations in two states to 150 locations in seven states. We soon posted our first Billion dollar sales year around 1982ish. Times were euphoric. We could do no wrong. But we got bought out by another corporation and became part of a 'group'. The first thing to go, other than the retail unions, benefits, and wage structure was our refund policy. Some bright boy figured out that if we required a receipt and then made all refunds by check, instead of cash ( which we almost never sent out) that we would save one or two million of dollars a year. The next year same store profits were down by almost eleven percent. As you can imagine panic set in with our new bosses..cuz you KNOW that they KNEW it was not their fault! Commitees and focus groups were formed ( we did not actually call them focus groups back then, but you get the message). And after almost a year of polling and study concluded that our, essentially non-existent, refund policy was driving our customers to our competitors in droves. We re-introduced our policy and reversed the trend. When we were "safe' they changed the policy to something in between. Meaning they actually sent the check....but waited 90 days. Dooooooooooown went our numbers again....and for several years we went on that roller coaster depending on what our numbers were for that quarter. We were still profitable but our growth and total revenues became stunted while we were under the umbrella of the group. At one point we became independent again, and under old leadership we doubled in size in another five years. And then came under another Corporations grasp and the whole thing started over again. You would not believe how stupid the leadership in Corporate America can be. How just the mere ownership of an MBA can make a person sure and certain that they know all there is to know about running the company. Or the arrogance and hubris of a 25 year old Exec who never paid his own bills ever; who thought he understood how blue collar Americans felt. I well remember one meeting where the CEO flew in from the Bahamas in his private 737, and told us that because of falling revenues in Q4 that the employees would have to take a pay cut. I remember his speech went something like this "Our employees are loyal and they know that they have to make sacrifices for the good of the company". Lol...our controller pointed out that if the CEO simply flew commercial Airlines that it would save the company millions of dollars and year and no pay cuts would be necessary.......  ....yeah.....needless to say the CEO never stopped flying his toy and the controller lost his job. But that is my parable of CA.
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