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The Mint Sells Retired Dies!

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 Posted 07/21/2012  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
That makes a lot more sense
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 Posted 07/21/2012  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Any idea what these sell for?
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 Posted 07/21/2012  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sralloway to your friends list
Site says $29.95 plus $5.95 shipping. Will head to the Philly mint next week to ask the source of the real thing. I want one.
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 Posted 07/21/2012  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
It would be cool if the nickel was the last coin off that die. The mint could sell me a die if the reason for retirement, a die crack in this case, were a visible feature on the coin and that portion of the die was not obliterated.
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 Posted 07/22/2012  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list

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The surface is obliterated before they sell these, so there's no image left on the die to copy.


Really? That makes it way less cool. If you can't see the detail then it's just a cylindrical slug with a COA. No fun at all.
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 Posted 07/22/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The coin and die sets were available for the State Quarter series as well. The coin included was one of the first struck by that die(making it a true First Strike coin) and the COA lists the production date, number of strikes, and reason for retirement.

The Mint also sold dies from the 1996 Olympic commemoratives. Those dies were chisel-cancelled so they still had significant detail remaining and now typically sell for $500-1000 depending on the die.

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 Posted 07/22/2012  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Those dies were chisel-cancelled


Does that mean they just chiseled enough of it to mess up the design where the dye is unusable?
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 Posted 07/23/2012  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
no real point in buying a die without the face on it. Would be like buying a rubber stamper that just left a big blocth on the paper
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 Posted 07/23/2012  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
I had a chance to examine a pair of die with the collars
at a recent coin show. Rather than being polished the
engravings had been melted/soldered in such a way that they could no longer fit together.
Also the collars would no longer fit.
I had no clear understanding of what I was holding
but they were cool. And HEAVY!
This was a dealer's private set and not part of an exhibition. They were also older than
the examples recently being offered by the Mint.
Edited by matthewvincent
07/23/2012 08:20 am
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 Posted 07/23/2012  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
mathewvincent,

the dies you describe were probably from the 1960s when they were cancelled by "puddling", essentially using a brazing torch to melt the design.


The Olympic dies just had a simple X mark-
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 Posted 07/23/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RMAN4443 to your friends list
I attended a police auction Saturday,and they had a cancelled die for the Connecticut Quarter.The face of the die was ground so that no image remained.It came in the box with COA,and a Quarter that had been produced by the die.It sold for $27.50
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 Posted 07/23/2012  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
The ones with just the x would be very cool to have. The ground ones not as much but having one from a favorite serious would be a nice addition
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 Posted 07/24/2012  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list


First thing I'd do is see if the coin fit in the die.
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 Posted 07/24/2012  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
Thanks a lot, biokemist6!
As I recall now, the dealer was considering removing the metal
from the sides of the dies. Then he could slip the collar(s) on
and display how the process worked.
"Puddling," huh?
Like melted wax from a candle running down the sides.
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 Posted 07/24/2012  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The X canceled (grinder not chisel) Olympic dies are very popular because they have the visible details. Unfortunately this also makes them MUCH more expensive running in the $600 to $1000 range. (There were also a lot fewer of them sold than of the melted 1968 dies, or of the later ground flat State Quarter and other denomination dies the Mint sold. (By the way the Mint no longer sells the dies. Whether they will again in the future is anyone's guess.)
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07/24/2012 5:27 pm
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