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1938 Crown

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 Posted 08/25/2012  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list

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Only 1 bid,if it was you Stevo,you got a bargain IMO


Decided not to bid as the photos didnt quite show enough detail for me,might get some more gold nuggets since gold is on the rise again
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 Posted 08/25/2012  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
With that much lustre remaining it would have to be high end AU at least.
Lousy strike on the reverse but the obverse is nicely struck.
If I had seen that I would have paid $150 in a heartbeat
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 Posted 08/26/2012  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
At went really cheap IMO.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list
Ok I might be mad here but I think this one is not even EF. More like a VF.

Where is the cross on the orb on top of the crown on the reverse.
Where are the vertical ridges on the two blob things on the crown as well.

Still a good start for the winning bidder.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list

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Where are the vertical ridges on the two blob things on the crown as well.


Thats the first thing I noticed Peter
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 Posted 08/28/2012  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Is there any mint lustre on or around those ridges? Impossible to say, even with good pictures in this case. I would need to look at the coin in hand before deciding to buy.

That is one of the problems with ebay. You can't examine the coin with a loupe.

In this case it makes it very hard to judge the condition. It does not surprise me that opinions range from VF to Unc.

This problem is not necessarily the seller's fault.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
In my opinion it is a weakly struck reverse,38 crowns are often like this,have a look at this MS 64 the reverse looks almost identical IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-AUSTRA...190701021157
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 Posted 08/28/2012  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
With that much lustre and detail on the obverse this would have to go minimum EF or up to AU55.
I think the sellers pic's didnt pick up the detail on the reverse ( you can see the ding in the left orb tho).
Still a $300 up coin anyway
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 Posted 08/28/2012  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
appleange107: The hair detail on the picture of the coin youn have presented is much more strongly defined, especially above the ear.

You just have to figure out if the reason for that is that it is more sharply struck, or in better condition. At MS64, mint lustre should be present in this area.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list
appleangel07, In the example you gave you can still see the left hand ridge and the right hand one is even more defined, even with grove beside it.

The ebay coin to me looks like it has a flat surface where these ridges should be, that says wear to me, not a weak strike.

Still the cross on the orb on the MS64 is missing too, that just confuses the heck of of me. It is one of my main indicators.

NOTE: I'm a complete noob at this so my opinion is not a accurate guide.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
This is a 1937 coin, They have exactly the same design as the 38 coin.
It has full cartwheel lustre.
What grade would you give this one


1938-Crown

1938-Crown
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 Posted 08/28/2012  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
I find it harder to grade from scans than photos because its impossible to see the lustre. If that crown has full lustre then I would say aUNC because it has a few marks on the obverse, enough to not call in UNC.
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 Posted 08/28/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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find it harder to grade from scans than photos because its impossible to see the lustre. If that crown has full lustre then I would say aUNC because it has a few marks on the obverse, enough to not call in UNC.


That is how I see this coin
Will probrbly go AU55-58


1938-Crown

Now getting back to the original question of Stevo's

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Is this coin EF aUNC or UNC ?


the 1938 coin would go EF
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 Posted 08/28/2012  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list
Ok Trouts 37 I'd put at aUnc or slightly better.

There are a couple of bag marks on the obverse under the chin and on the cheek. But the hair over the ear is very clear.
From what I understand bag marks will not detract from Unc, could be wrong.

Reverse my only issue is the cross on the orb. It does not quite cross in the middle.

So I don't think it would go Unc, Close but.... not quite.
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 Posted 08/29/2012  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list
Any thoughts on this Crown,it was purchased about 10 years ago from a 2nd hand dealer as aUNC but I don't think its that.It has the ridge on the Fleur things & the Orb but lots of little mint marks esp on the Obverse with the reeding teeth.I will post a scan of the Obverse when I find it.What worries me is the Lustre,not sure if its genuine or been dipped as I can't see any cleaning marks.




1938-Crown
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08/29/2012 11:27 pm
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