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1816 Large Cent

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 Posted 03/10/2007  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Remember, we're talking about technology of 190 years ago. Die alignment was not nearly as exact a science then as it is now. I took the weaker left-side strike into account when considering grade; a more even strike would show more detail on the forehead, I think, than this coin does.
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 Posted 03/10/2007  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I thought I might be missing something with this one. I assumed the flat stars were due to the strike, but didn't consider that the hair detail above the forehead might also be affected. Seems logical, as that area is a high spot on the same side of the coin as the less detailed stars.
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 Posted 03/10/2007  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
That's what I was trying to figure out I guess. If that's the case, just a weak/off level strike, I don't see what would keep this from MS?

The color is fantastic too!!
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 Posted 03/10/2007  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I don't think the hairline detail loss is due to strike. There are a couple of areas that appear to show slight wear on the wreath, in addition to the hairlines and the top of the coronet. I think this coin is in EF40 condition. Very beautiful!!
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 Posted 03/10/2007  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
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I think this coin is in EF40 condition.


I knew I was way off thinking it was close to MS. Oh well, practice makes perfect. I just kind of assumed you would see Something in the fields as far as marks if it was circulated. I find it hard to believe something moved around enough to rub that deeply to be noticeable, and not have any marks/nicks...

At least I was kind of close on Superdave's 1910 cent.
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 Posted 03/10/2007  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
I looked at some of large cents on heritage and comparing them I thought this will make atleat AU50. Oh.. well, I still like it and will keep it.
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 Posted 03/10/2007  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Don't forget, shatsi - Susan grades according to "real" standards, and I tend to market grade. I think the coin would see AU if submitted, even though according to the established standards Susan grades by, it shouldn't.

We're both right, and so are you.
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 Posted 03/10/2007  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list
That's definitely an N-2 variety, and a nice looking one, too !!!
My opinion on the grade is AU.


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 Posted 03/11/2007  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list
I'm going to have to go AU. There is enough of what appears to be mint luster for me to believe weak strike on the stars and hair rather than obvious wear.
Any way I join the chorus - cool looking coin!

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 Posted 03/12/2007  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
I really like the look of those surfaces. That might be a coin I'd send in for slabbing. It might be worth much more in a good slab than raw.
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 Posted 03/12/2007  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list
Prethen, its for my type set. No point in slabbing it as I usually store them in 2x2 till I make up my mind to transfer to a type set album.
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 Posted 03/12/2007  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You are going to have one heck of a type set.
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 Posted 03/12/2007  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list
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You are going to have one heck of a type set.


No kidding !!! I hope mine turns out as well someday
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 Posted 03/12/2007  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tbar to your friends list
My first reaction was au-50



I love the muted brown color....makes for a soft original appearance.

real nice coin....
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 Posted 03/20/2007  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlyUS to your friends list
The details for this coin are representative of an commercial AU-50 (I would guess the EAC grade around VF-30/35). However, I'm a bit concerned about the originality of the color. It looks recolored to me. This wouldn't necessarily a "bad" thing (MANY coppers have been recolored), but is simply something you would want to be aware of. Regardless, it's a really nice, clean coin with no major rim-dings, spots or bagmarks, and is therefore a PQ coin.
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