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Im not aloud to post it...but its in my profile.
As far as I know, ICCS does not have a website but I'm sure there is some sort of population report out there. Are you looking to build a ICCS collection of only top grades? Colonial Acres offers alot of ICCS coins.
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09/16/2012 4:09 pm
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Canada
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ICCS will sell you a population report for about $30. You might be able to get one off ebay also--someone usually lists them at least when they first come out. I like to keep my old ones to see how populations are trending, but perhaps others would be willing to part with an older one. I think CCCS has an online population report. |
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People from ebay or Colonial Acres say that their coins are the highest graded. Did they get this information from the population report? Is there another way to know about this? |
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1925 MS65 $13,000 (260,000 nickels)
i could only imagine the look on my wife's face if I brought that home
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country.
The reason for this is that I have never seen a perfect coin from a mint roll issued for circulation. They all have a least some minor problem, the most common of these being bag marks. They are ejected from the high speed presses and drop from some height onto a pile. The coins in the pile are handled in bulk, where they jingle against each other, before being mechanically rolled.
MS65 coins most certainly do exist, but they are almost certainly from fresh dies and specially and individually extracted from the press, immediately after striking. Such coins are sold to collectors, packaged and marketed by the mints as 'uncirculated', at a premium price, that is many multiples of their face value.
Such 'mint sets' of Australian coins can be valued anywhere from $30 to over $100 or more on the numismatic aftermarket.
Probably the best thing to do is just order a mint set directly from the Mint, or for issued mint sets of previous years, from a dealer. With Australian coins the only way to obtain a MS65 coins for some years is via a mint set, because some coins have not been struck or issued circulation for those years.
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country.
The reason for this is that I have never seen a perfect coin from a mint roll issued for circulation. They all have a least some minor problem, the most common of these being bag marks. They are ejected from the high speed presses and drop from some height onto a pile. The coins in the pile are handled in bulk, where they jingle against each other, before being mechanically rolled.
MS65 coins most certainly do exist, but they are almost certainly from fresh dies and specially and individually extracted from the press, immediately after striking. Such coins are sold to collectors, packaged and marketed by the mints as 'uncirculated', at a premium price, that is many multiples of their face value. You are confusing MS65 with MS70. |
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country. Not that I personally have experience (yet) with MS-65+ grading, but in this thread SPP mentions certifying MS-67 coins from mint rolls: https://goccf.com/t/129322&whichpage=1Finding MS-65 coins in customer wrapped rolls though? Possible I guess, although the chances of a coin remaining uncirculated after circulating go down quickly  Edited by LaureateBust
09/17/2012 08:29 am
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MS-65 grade does not mean the coin is perfect. I have found MS-66 coins from mint rolls of nickel 50-cent coins (went through an entire mint box, to find it), as an example of larger coins. MS-66 is pretty tough grade for 5-cent coins, but MS-67 is fairly easy to find with 1-cent and 10-cent strikes. Sometimes, you just have to get lucky, and find a roll where a coin maybe landed on its edge in the hopper and was not banged by subsequently struck coins... some years are much tougher than others. A quick search on ebay can pretty much tell you which years are common for MS-65 grades and which years are tough. Anyone notice the 1970 ICCS MS-66 that just sold on ebay? Hammer was just north of $400! "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Does ICCS give MS 67 or 68 for circulation coins?
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Canada
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I have seen MS-67 ICCS circulation coins. Someone else can probably confirm/deny the existence of MS-68.
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Canada
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 For nickels (business strikes) from 1970 to 2011 there are no MS-68's graded by I.C.C.S., however, there are 4>MS-67's & 25>MS-66's.  Glenn |
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Glenn, where can you get this information and how did you know?
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ICCS population reports show up on ebay. I suppose you could also get them from ICCS. |
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In rare cases, yes MS-68 has been used by ICCS. You see it a bit more often in "Numismatic BU" coins too...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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You should know that for a period of time in 2005 and 2006 ICCS was grading coins taken from uncirculated sets from about 1995 and up and calling them high grade MS without the Numismatic BU comment. A lot ended up as MS66 and up.
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