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No Way This Is A 64!

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 Posted 09/19/2012  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I was just going to suggest, a damaged slab causing accelerated environmental damage. Too bad :-(
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 Posted 09/19/2012  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
The photos are indeed not capable of judging for ourselves the grade of this coin ... and I tend as well to suspect the coin surfaces have 'turned bad' somehow in the holder.

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 Posted 09/19/2012  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add derrick to your friends list
PCGS does make mistakes - I once sent them two type 2 1979 proof quarters, and had them slab one as type 2 and one as type 1. Just as an experiment to see if they knew what they did wrong, I cut the wrongly certified one out and sent it again and that time they got it right and called it type 2.

But this example looks pretty extreme. Bad pictures can hide a lot, but this coin is quite circulated! Look at the dirt around the lettering if you don't believe the worn down device.
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 Posted 09/19/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I am not sure what the "fogging" around the coin is but I think might have something to do with the manufacturing of the ring that holds the coin or the slabbing process. I have a coin slabbed by PCGS that has "fogging" similar to that I know for sure was not the result of improper storage because it was already like that when I received the coin back from PCGS. I can't say if the coin in ebay listing is overgraded since it could look very different in hand but the pictures are certainly not doing the coin any favors.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Night Hawk to your friends list
It looks like a coin you'd find in a junk bin.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
I think there might have been some contaminant on the coin when it was put in the holder, leading to the corrosion and the fogging of the holder.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mach1 to your friends list
Wow, ugly coin for sure. Not a MS64, IMO.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list
ugly and not appealing. Like I've mentioned, buy the coin not the holder, don't drink the PCGS Kool aid.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
LOL.... take a look at the reverse, it looks at best, a VF
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 Posted 09/20/2012  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Hummmm.....hard to tell much from the crappy pictures but it doesn't look MS to me either.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
Most would go with XF maybe AU, I would think.
Better pics would make this thread more interesting.
That is; I'd love to see what they are looking at
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 Posted 09/20/2012  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
I find that hard to believe but we don't have the coin in hand do we. The pictures sure don't do it any justice, thats for sure. According to all I have seen in grading books, many of which state...an uncirculated coin in very good but not perfect condition.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list
I dont think this coin is any better than fine

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 Posted 09/20/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
'looks great in hand'

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 Posted 09/20/2012  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
It also has a very sight die rotation...

This whole thing is suspicious, and if it's real it wouldn't be covered by PCGS's guarantee either (they'd call it a "clerical error"). :-)
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