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Rest in Peace
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Whoa....Good question redlee
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Im serious, I would just like to know how you determine a real mint error as compared to a forgery? Could that coin not be a real mint error. Just curious.Thanks
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Someone asked via a Note to Staff how to edit their posts. Above your post is an icon...  This will allow one to edit their post, but only for 24 hours. Once the post is a day old, it is no longer editable by the member. |
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... but how do you know its not a real Mint error. Yeah.. I would like to know also, why couldn't it have fell back in the chamber and been struck twice.  |
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I dont know if youre trying to joke redlee but jut incase youre not I thought id add this: You can tell its PMD because under the damage there is the detail of the coin. If it was struck through then there would not be such good detail under the indent. If you were thinking it was a double strike then have a think. If it was double struck the the area that was struck second would have to have a new strike. Check out broken coins avatar you will see one of the later strikes shows a second date struck. Edited by enworb
10/08/2012 8:51 pm
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Not joking at all I was interested in how you tell thanks for the info. And now I know how to edit my post. thanks again from a Computer and Coin Neophyte.
Im not here to waste my time or anyone else's!
Edited by redlee
10/08/2012 10:03 pm
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redlee...You are surely not wasting anyone's time here. We all learn on every post....Look at my signature below. P.S. - Those are mighty big words you are using... 
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Australia
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CCF is pretty light hearted most of the time. The trouble with the internet is sarcasm and humour is very easily lost and it can be hard to differentiate between a joke and a genuine question.
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You are correct enworb. redlee was asking a genuine question and deserves a genuine answer...Which he did receive. But...But...is it PMD....? Edited by wert
10/08/2012 11:22 pm
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It has to be PMD. If you notice, the newly impressed design on each of these coins is the "negative" of the other coin which has hit it -- if they had been caught in the minting dies a second time and re-stamped they would have a "positive" design. In other words, these coins show that the newly stamped part is stamped into the coin's surface, whereas on a genuinely re-stamped coin it should stick out. Something else to notice as well: in the first photo, the reverse of the penny has been struck with another reverse of a penny -- impossible if the coin was stuck in the die; it would have been struck with an obverse. As well, the pressure that the minting presses exert would, IMO, cause more damage to a genuinely re-struck coin than these seem to show. I have to agree with the original post and the hammer assessment for PMD. |
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Oh, and hey, I just noticed: congrats on hitting a thousand posts, wert! That's quite a milestone. Edited by pennysaver
10/09/2012 9:05 pm
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Thanks pennysaver....That one got by me, thanks for noticing.
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Canada
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Ist PMD? the question has not really been answered yet. everyone is simply guessing, right? Personally I have no opinion yet. However, there are experts, Like MM. These people need to have the coin "in Hand" to evaluate it. what I do not, or narely, see on this damage is "flux" of the metal. when you "hammer metal, the displaced portion has to go somewhere. the other question is: Is it PMD if it happened inside the mint regardless of how? hammer, striking chamber, emplyoees "making" a collectible. I am always suspicious when it is "one"of a kind and the origin is not clear. at least if it perhaps was in the striking chamber, there might be more than one. |
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PMD can also be seen because the design will be pressed into the other coin instead of raised like a coin that has been struck with dies. So if the extra design is indented into the coin you know it is a hammer job or vise job. I hope this helps the ones that were asking Edit: I just read down to pennysavers post above and see he pretty much said the same thing I did. Sometimes I do not read every post and if I see someone ask something and if the next 3 or 4 aren't answering them I will go ahead and make a quick reply before I read the whole thread Quote:Is it PMD if it happened inside the mint regardless of how? hammer, striking chamber, emplyoees "making" a collectible. I am always suspicious when it is "one"of a kind and the origin is not clear. From my understanding anything that was done to the coin after striking the coin is considered PMD. I guess it really should be called Post Strike Damage instead of Post Mint but that is the term they decided to use instead
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So, Bryan1315...There are what I like to call "Garage Hammer Error"... Guess I couldn't be so lucky as to find 3 errors...correct..? |
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