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New Member
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Looks like a quarter + a penny + a hammer. You would need to provide a better picture to be sure. 1 cent printed smashed upside down on a quarter! Definitely a hammer 'smash' job! Not an error, but straight out PMD. Quote:you should be able to get a couple of hundred or more for it on ebay. Oh, please don't encourage anyone to list this garbage on ebay. there's too much of it already there.  Sorry zenno.  Keep it as a curio, by all means.  life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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New Member
Canada
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:-( Allright then.
Sorry everyone. I guess I will get back to work tomorrow. Funny because the other side of the coin is in perfect condition, no trace of damage at all. And I personnaly think that a hammer is not powerful enough to create this, maybe it was what trout1105 suggested, a hydraulic bench press but why ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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would you beleive, too much time on our hands.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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hammer works well. No press required.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Based on the last pic you posted, I do not think it is a smash job. It is most likely glue residue from a cent being glued to the quarter. Removing the cent would leave behind a big glop of glue dried onto the coin and also retain detail from the cent that would seen on top of the quarter design. |
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New Member
Canada
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Interesting. I think this coin will take a bath....just to see if the glue can be removed. What can you suggest I use in the water to prevent deterioration of the metal, just to make the glue melt or at leat detached from the coin ?
Thank you very much.
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Pillar of the Community
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zenno the answer to your question why ? very simple..If someone out there thinks he or she can make a few bucks with an error and have an uneducated collector buy it then $$$$$$ its all theirs.... But there are many guys here who are error collectors and if they cry foul then your best to listen..and if that's not enough spend the 11.00 send it to the Graders and if authentic you score...
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The last photo was just what was needed here.
Acetone (pure acetone/not nail polish remover) will remove the glue. There's a thread about that here ...check under the 'cleaning coins' topic.
If the coin isn't otherwise valuable you could just try chipping a bit off with your fingernail but that will leave a scratch.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Welcome to CCF Zenno, too bad this was your first find. Keep checking your change and you'll find something eventually! Anyway, you probaly want to know why this can't happen. For a coin to be struck (at least in North America,)it must fit inside the collar. The collar is a round piece of metal with a hole its center. Think of a doughnut. The hole is the exact same diameter as the coin which is being struck. In order for the coin to be struck, it must fit into the collar. If it doesn't, it will not reach the dies and will never be struck. Your coin appears to be a quarter that has been struck with the design for a penny. In order for this to happen, the quarter would have to get underneath penny dies, which could not occur, because it would be too big. Also, if it HAD been struck with penny dies, it would have the penny design on both sides, and the design would be facing the proper way, as it appears on a normal penny. The design on yours is only on one side, and it is a mirror image. This means that an already-struck coin must have been pressed into it in some way. If this were done using a hammer, or even a press, there would probably be some damage to the other side. Since yours does not have this, I think that someone probably put glue on the coin and pressed a penny onto it. I hope this helps you, Zenno, and anyone else who might read it. A little information never hurt anyone!  -oddcoins Edited by OddCoins
11/07/2012 4:06 pm
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New Member
Canada
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WOW ! Thanks everyone. I must admit that I'm really surprised to see the great support from the members of this forum. This is really an eye opener. Thank also you for the welcome words.
I will post a new pic as soon as I have buy some acetone to show the results.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I may have too much faith on human nature. I think many of these PMDs are made just for the fun of it, not for profit. A few are made for the artistry, the "Calgary Shop" comes to mind - an 'artist' who has all the equipment needed to create incredible errors, some of them certified by a TPG. Error collecting is expensive, not only for the prices of the real errors, but for how much we pay for our mistakes: I keep in my collection a twoonie (my speciality) with a varnish blob on the reverse core - a $100 "lesson" Edited by t_y
11/07/2012 8:39 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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I could see a penny planchet being struck with a quarter's die, but would a quarter's planchet even fit into a penny's die?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Yes IF (big IF) you stop the press, open the collar, place the planchet, strike the coin, and remove the "error" from the bed.
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New Member
Canada
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Sorry for the rather long delay guys. was busy busy busy...
Case is closed. Acetone reveal a sparkling normal quarter with no trace of penny whatsoever.
Thank you to everyone for their inputs.
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