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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Dave H, Actually, the way ebay works, if the buyer is unhappy and wants a refund, he'll get a refund. I'm not that litigious. I just want him to respond to my question and hear what he has to say. I'll give you 10 - 1 odds that I will not send it back. I may experiment with them or just tuck them away for a future Secret Santa  . And I told the seller earlier in my email, the case is cracked in two places too. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The set you received appears to be a different set as the seller's photo clearly shows toning the coins. I would pack them back up with the original papers and wait for them to tone. The hassle and cost involved to return them would not be worth it to me. I would however contact the seller and tell him or her that I didn't receive the coins as pictured and see what the response is.
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 United States
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Frankly, if you're happy with the set, keep them. Pristine sets are going to be difficult in the future - not many are serious enough to keep them under the strict conditions necessary to prevent eventual toning - and if you want them toned, well, there are ways....  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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dave700x, You basically echoed what I said in a follow up post. Great minds think alike  . SsuperDdave, I just said the same thing to a friend last night on the phone. I told him that the untoned sets may command a premium in the future if most of them tone. Once again, great minds think alike . |
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
Yeah, It took me a few minutes to finish that one. Work always interrupts the important things.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19969 Posts |
Pretty nice! For under $10 I wouldn't send them back. There's nothing wrong with some spare coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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BadThad, Something tells me that when it comes to Lincoln pennies, you will never or can ever have too many  . If memory serves me correctly, I've only returned one thing from ebay and I can't remember what it was. Once, I bought a leather jacket and It wasn't as described. It wasn't returned. I wore it for part of one winter and when the next winter rolled around I re-listed it. This time it was described better with the companies name in the description which the previous seller didn't do. This company is Schott and their vintage jackets can bring hundreds. Originally, I only paid 40 dollars and when I sold it she brought over 80 dollars. Sometimes a mistake can turn into a windfall but more often they just turn into a FALL. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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not many are serious enough to keep them under the strict conditions necessary to prevent eventual toning In the Eastern U.S., that is. I've now checked 2009 Proof Sets at six different Denver coin dealers, and none of the Cents in OGP lenses have toned. I have a complete collection of Silver Proof Sets 1992-2012, and the only toned Silver Proof coins I have are a loose lens of year-2000 Silver Proof Quarters I bought from an ebay seller in upstate NY, specifically for their subtle gold tone. mds, too bad those Cents aren't like Broken-Coin's. Those were just  Still keepers, though. Edited by DNA
11/15/2012 9:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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DNA,
The toned set (notice I placed them in individual plastic holders) look much nicer in person. I took the pictures quickly with the wrong light and it shows.
I'd be willing to buy another set off the seller if they looked like the ones in the picture and I'd still keep the untoned set. I'm still waiting for his response. It's funny how when you buy from some dealers, they'll respond quickly, but when there's a problem they take their time getting back with you.
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Pillar of the Community
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I am slightly puzzled by one thing. You mentioned a "deep dark patina." On a modern proof, why would you be looking for a deep dark patina, it might even negate the cameo effect. I know people like certain colors of toning, but if your definition of "deep dark patina" is what I'm picturing in my mind, I would be pretty upset if that is what I received, and certainly not what I'd be looking for.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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hesgut,
You are correct. I used a bad choice of words. I should have said a deep darker rainbow tone. Not patina.
Like the song goes:
Sometimes I don't speak right, but yet I know what I'm talkin' about.....(Why can't we be friends)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Why would you want to buy damaged/toned sets in the first place  Is it Peer pressure ( I just gotta have what this mob have got)Or is it purely a need to have coins that are ascetically better looking. IMHO the recent coins that are toned are a direct result of neglect,improper storage or a deliberate attempt to damage/tone coins. Don't get me wrong I DO like a few of the toned coins because of the dramatic colors, But at the end of the day they are purely DAMAGED coins and they are a curiosity to me and are welcome in my collection. Now be honest with yourself, wouldn't you much rather have a perfect coin with FULL unblemished lustre than a coin that has suffered from environmental /deliberate damage |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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trout1105,
I respect your opinion(s). This is what makes coin collecting so diverse. I love the appearance of this 'damaged' coin. I'll keep the un-toned set and enjoy both. The way you feel about these coins is the way I feel about the guys who collect modern Chinese fakes. I would never go after counterfeit coins for my collection but there are guys who would chase them down like vice after a drug dealer. The 19th century counterfeits are another story.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMHO the recent coins that are toned are a direct result of neglect,improper storage or a deliberate attempt to damage/tone coins. Most of the toned coins you see on ebay, in other words.  Broken-Coin's 2009 Proof Cents are a notable exception to such rules. The Eastern U.S. has a more humid, more acidic atmosphere than the Western U.S. Combine this with the plastic gases from the packaging and/or the anti-tarnish rinse, and the 2009 Proof Cents appear to have a susceptibility to rapid natural toning in this locale, even when properly stored. Other CCF members in the Eastern U.S. have reported such toning on their 2009 Proof Cents. Edited by DNA
11/16/2012 11:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The way you feel about these coins is the way I feel about the guys who collect modern Chinese fakes People collect Chinese fakes on purpose? On topic, I see there was a slight miscommunication about what the OP meant by dark patina. You just meant attractive (subjective to the collector) natural toning. I am not one of them, but I know many people who prefer toned coins to non-toned examples...even for modern proofs. |
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