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1899 PNC Holder? MS 66

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 Posted 12/15/2012  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
I will post better pictures and no I didn't pay anywhere near MS 66 value. But I am hoping that it is MS 65 at least.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
I'm having trouble getting clear pics through the holder. It keeps glaring.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
Does anyone have any info on this Slabber? Have their grades been fairly accurate?
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 Posted 12/15/2012  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I hate to say it like this, but with one of these basement slabbers there is no expectation that the coin is even Uncirculated, nor can the originality of the surfaces be trusted.

Break it out of the slab to image it. That slab is worthless, and shouldn't even be a part of a resale.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
Thanks SsuperDdave. Is there a trick to removing these or do I just cut it open?
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 Posted 12/15/2012  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I Dremel them myself. It's quite possible (probable even) that your slab isn't permanently-sealed. You can likely pry the two halves apart. If it is sealed, wrap a layer of duct tape over the part covering the coin to contain cracked pieces, and rap it on the side up by the label with a hammer, with the opposite side on a hard surface. Start light and build up until you get it to crack.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
Ok, I broke it out what do you think. Is the ms66 out of reach? New pics up top.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Well, what I can see seems nice, but those images are far too small to even consider a concrete opinion. An image where the coin is smaller than 500 pixels in diameter just isn't large enough for an accurate guess, even though there are plenty who will render such guesses. That's a disservice to the original poster.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
Thanks SsuperDdave, I think I will send this one in for grading. It would definitely be worth it if it is ms66. Thanks again for your opinion.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
My wife fixed the pictures. We are trying to get the hang of uploading the photo's.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list
Try to take some pics straight down. Easier to see detail.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
OK, that's much better. It's conceivable that this is a Mint State coin - the reeding looks nice and sharp - but the largest obverse pic seems to show what could be the barest amount of wear. That might also be a function of the lighting.

Best case, either way, is this coin *might* make MS64. This is a pricey issue in Mint State, but at 64 you're only looking at a $300 value. Probably half that or a little less in AU58.

And there's still the originality of the surfaces to consider, although I see no evidence to make me doubt that.

So this has to be your judgment, considering your current investment in the coin.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
Thank you guys. I'll practice on the pictures for future submissions.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list
I might end up just breaking even on this one. I paid 225, but I will send it to NGC hoping for the best.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I can't say for sure if the surfaces are original though I am not seeing anything obvious. If it's called problem free, the grade might be limited to a 63 at the most. Best of luck with the submission.
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