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1st Ounce Of Silver?

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 Posted 01/02/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list
The amount by which the weight was off was pretty small and if your scale is an inexpensive one, there's a fair chance the scale itself could be off by
a little bit as well as the round being off by a little bit also. Overall, you're pretty safe that it's not a counterfeit. Haven't heard anything about Chinese
knockoffs of Golden State Mint rounds yet, either...
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 Posted 01/02/2013  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
I can only agree with the above. The margin of error on that seems fine and if it has that nice ring...I'd say you have a nice one ounce round.

To get a better idea of your scale's capabilites in the 30 gram range, do you have any other coins in the same weight class that you could measure? (How far off is the weight on a pair of uncirculated halfs? a couple of uncirculated quarters? etc.)
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 Posted 01/02/2013  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tgauchsin to your friends list
For a generic round silver, Golden State Mint is reputable. I have a one ounce round from them modeled after the St Gauden Double Eagle.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HaroldS to your friends list
You said "my LCS" Not one of these "we buy gold" guys? Would a LCS really be selling fakes? Not a good reputation for any LCS to get. Take it back and ask them to weigh it to compare with your scale.
All the previous info is excellent.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Would a LCS really be selling fakes?


Yes LCS will have fakes depending on the place. Some will be because the dealer got fooled others will be an owner knowing exactly what theyre doing. Theres great LCS out there, but just being one doesn't make the people running it honest or more knowledgeable than anyone else just means they had the money to start a coin store.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincsus to your friends list
I would not worry too much about a generic being a little overweight. At least not until I am buying in bulk.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
Yea I agree with Baseballs comment- someone had the cash to run a store and that's all that's to it.

I have run into many many dishonest coin shops, and there's plenty of them online, and there's plenty of them at flea market shows, and look at ebay.

Its sad,,, but I think greed is the driving force here, as is the case in many things.. but there's something about coins, I dunno if its that the dealers feel they can play on the human weakness of greed itself, or the self paranoia some have that they walk right into the hands of these dishonest coin shops....thinking that they are their buddy and have their best interest in hand.

I think thats why having a forum like this, and especially now with the Internet and social media, using this to educate ourselves we can all avoid being burned.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list
I would have gone to one that has been in business longer then a month or two, but it is farther away from where I live. yup7676 has a great point also.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I have run into many many dishonest coin shops, and there's plenty of them online, and there's plenty of them at flea market shows, and look at ebay.


Exactly, no matter how you buy there will be dishonest people which can really be said for any market. Coins seem to be a particular target since its easy to get them and find people to try and take advantage of with their popularity.
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 Posted 01/04/2013  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Drop it on the table and see what sound it makes, that's am easy way to tell what its made of.

Or, simply flip it smartly into the air with your thumb and forefinger. Real silver will ring like a bell when this is done. Try it a few times because you have to get the hang of doing it just right to hear it ring. Once you have that, then try flipping one of those cupro-nickel abominations. No ring. Barely even a dull thud.
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 Posted 01/04/2013  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list
It does have a high-pitch ring, so I'm concluding silver. Also, I was doing some online research to see which site has the cheapest generics with the lowest shipping. I found that SilverTowne has fairly low priced generics and some of them even have free shipping. So, I might actually just start to get my silver from them. Has anyone had an experience in which they received fake silver or gold from them?
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 Posted 01/04/2013  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrMorgan to your friends list
My LCS was out of silver eagles today too and he said he was running low on junk. In all of my years going there I have never known him to be out of eagles or running low on anything. I know silver dipped but I didn't think it would create a frenzy. I hope it doesn't turn into a trend as I usually try to stop in there once a week.
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 Posted 01/04/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Silvertowne has their own smelter for making their products. Reputable sites like that have way more to lose selling fakes than they do to gain with a larger profit here and there. If you ever happened to get a fake theyd replace for sure.
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 Posted 01/04/2013  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list
Yeah, that makes sense. Also, since they just recently started selling poured bars, then I'm thinking that they are trying to break out of being called "generic".
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 Posted 01/05/2013  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I happen to have a 1/2oz round from them that has the incuse indian $2.50/5 on the obverse and Wheat cent reverse on the back. Golden state mint seems reputable and I wouldn't worry too much. I remember reading a while back, a few members had weighed a bunch of ASE's and found that the majority were slightly overweight by a few hundredths of a troy ounce. This may be result of the mint not wanting to deal with the consequences that will come with underweight coins. I think it is probably the same reason why your round is slightly overweight.
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