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I think we've eaten enough popcorn, time for Eddop to put us out of our misery  |
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Yeah, don't leave us hanging any longer eddop  Edited by VisigothKing
01/16/2013 3:58 pm
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No popcorn anymore....Bing bingo! It's Carus a Lugdunum coin, but I can't blaim those who choose Carinus. Indeed Carus was almost bold, I have no idea why the engraver removed part of hair at the forehead at this way. The portrait shows a younger person as expected, Carus was at time, 282 ad, almost 60 years old. This coin belongs to the first emission Carus as sole emporer (AVG), coins for his son Carinus not minted before the 3th emission. When I noticed this coin I considered two options: a Carinus portrait, which is not possible or a Probus portrait with partly removed hair..... Anyway it's not a typical Carus portrait.  Edited by Eddop
01/17/2013 01:31 am
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 Bing. Quote:
Indeed Carus was almost bold, I have no idea why the engraver removed part of hair at the forehead at this way. I guess ancient engravers also had bad days, maybe this was a hangover coin |
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Bing. Quote:
Indeed Carus was almost bold, I have no idea why the engraver removed part of hair at the forehead at this way. I guess ancient engravers also had bad days, maybe this was a hangover coin |
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 I like it when I'm right, but it happens so seldom (especially with my wife). |
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It is often quite difficult to determine the emperor from the portrait alone at this peiod. Durnig these times of turmoil the mints needed to carry on minting coins during a regime change. The easiest way for them to do this was to continue to use the portrait and reverse types (and likely reverse dies) from the last running issue of the previous emperor and add new obverse legends. This was intended to be short term whilst they awaited the approved portrait of the new emperor and the new political message to be conveyed through the coinage was decreed. This leads specialists to look for these interesting transitional coins and pick them out.
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Interesting - hence the Probus similarities.
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During the Tetrarchy, the portraits on Folles lose a lot of their individuality and become homogeneous it becomes very difficult to tell emperors apart even within the same issue.
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Glad to see that I was right also for a change. BTW Ed this is a beautiful coin with excellent details.
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Thank you Ron, the coin didn't arrive yet it has to cross the Northsea.
Martin I think that's exactly what I wanted to say, Lugdunum is your speciality do you have any specimen related to this subject?
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This coin comes from the 1st Issue of Carus, has a portrait is considered to be one that matches the last issue portrait of Probus though the reverse is a different type to those in the last issue of Probus.  This coin of Probus is from the 1st issue of Probus and has what is called a "Florian/Tacitus" portrait.  This early denarius of Septimius Severus has straight hair as they didn't know what he looked like.  Martin |
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This is the first SS I've seen with straight hair.
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