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 Posted 03/18/2013  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Still a nice find and sellable on the bay.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list
Oh I am definitely going to keep it. But I just want to find one solid while I'm still young enough to appreciate it!
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 Posted 03/18/2013  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nationals to your friends list
Neat find. The white whale can't hide forever.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Woodford to your friends list
Close one Nickelman! Makes you wonder if there are any full solid serials floating in the wild. Wouldn't they be grabbed by collectors or an opportunist rather quickly?
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 Posted 03/19/2013  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list

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Makes you wonder if there are any full solid serials floating in the wild. Wouldn't they be grabbed by collectors or an opportunist rather quickly?


It is true that many (if not most) would be grabbed before they ever hit the bank counter. People that handle the bundles do watch the labels and make sure their friends/family get those. However they do get past them sometimes and find their way into circulation from time to time.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jim61 to your friends list
I also believe most all are grabbed up as soon as they hit the banks.

From my personal experience, I have looked through many, MANY $1 new notes for decades and never found one. Needless to say, I am not looking any more. This isn't meant to burst anyone's bubble about looking for them, just my experience only.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list

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Neat find. The white whale can't hide forever.



I don't know........what are the odds? I might have missed some, but I've only seen ONE on CC with solid numbers.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
Still would make my week.......great find.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peteramadeus to your friends list

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I don't know........what are the odds?


Depends how you try to figure out it, best case scenario the odds are roughly 1 in 11111111...actual odds are lower due to starting/stopping numbers of print runs... these odds only apply if all print runs only go from 00000001 up to a solid all one digit serial.

Modern US serial numbers start at 00000001 and go up to 96000000 for notes $20 and lower. No higher numbers are used, so in those 960000000 notes there are 8 solid digit notes. 96000000/8 = 12000000 so by this method the odds are 1 in 12000000, however not all runs fully go up even multiples of 96000000 so it's really hard to come up with exact odds....

Max serial numbers have varied over time, so this really only applies to recent notes (post series of 1988). 1928-1974 small size notes runs actually went up to 99999999 thus increasing the odds of finding solid serial notes somewhat. 1974-1988 it was 99840000 then reduced further to 99200000. Modern $50 and $100 notes still go up to 99200000. You can find tons of information on serial numbering on US currency here: http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/number.html

So an optimistic estimate is somewhere between 1 in 11111111 and 1 in 12000000 for recent notes $20 and under, 1 in 11111111 to 1 in 12400000 for $50 and $100 notes.
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03/19/2013 6:23 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2013  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Woodford to your friends list
Better chances at winning the lottery and simply buying a solid serial :-)
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 Posted 03/20/2013  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jim61 to your friends list
Have to agree with that!
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 Posted 03/20/2013  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list

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Better chances at winning the lottery and simply buying a solid serial :-)



Now we are getting into the technicalities

Once you get into fancy sn $2's and star note sn's the complexity of it get's more difficult to sort out as not many are printed. IMO, most folks see the sn and not how difficult such sn's are on a particular type of note. Ergo, at times there are bargains.

Throw in matching SN's with alphas (prefix and suffix)...and the odd's are....someone please compute the odd's.

FWIW, I have matched $2 sn's with matching alplhas where only 6 or 7 notes with the exact combo have ever been printed. Now did the other 4 or 5 notes ever survive...having spoken to someone who keeps track $2 fancy sn's.... chances are those other fancy sn's NEVER survived / been destroyed by bep over the years.
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03/20/2013 4:55 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2013  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peteramadeus to your friends list
According to this wonderful infographic when compared to my approximate calculations the odds of finding a solid serial number note are similar to the odds of being attacked by a shark.
You about 11 times more likely to find a solid serial note than winning the lottery (Mega Millions in this example). You're probably better off if everytime you think you should buy a lottery ticket you instead save the money until you have enough to buy a solid digit serial note

http://www.popsci.com/science/artic...-infographic
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03/20/2013 5:55 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2013  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
Sorry I ask.

Now......I need a drink!
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 Posted 03/21/2013  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Woodford to your friends list
Ceylon, matching the prefixes and suffixes as well as exact SNs is just plain ridiculous. I've seen pairs like that before and it is IMO incredibly impressive and difficult to attain.
Bravo to any who have managed to put together a duo of $2s like that, literally becomes a one of a kind pair.
Peteramadeus, I seriously Lol'ed at that.
Odds like those is why I never even bother playing the lottery.
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