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New Presidential Dollars... Ugly Or Beautiful?

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 Posted 05/15/2007  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list
>>> Why did the art committee that oversees these projects allow such disgraceful work on our coinage ?

Because they had an ulterior motive ?
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 Posted 05/15/2007  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list
Actually, I kind of like the designs & the side lettering. Especially the reverse.

I agree with double die - they should have actual silver $20 coins put into general circulation. The "beautiful woman" could be the " Peace dollar" woman. I like the idea of Twin Towers &/or the Eagle, especially the Eagle from the Peace dollars on the reverse.

To mint the Eagles like they do now with a face value of $1, but to buy one costs $20 is silly.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list


dcarr you crack me up

I don't really see the resemblance between Bob Denver and James Madison...sorry
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list
I don't think it's a matter of Ugly or Beautiful, but rather Hooo-Hummmmmm!
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
I see there is another fan of Bing Crosby on here.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list
I agree with everyone, they aren't the most attractive coins out there. I do hope they will generate more interest in numismatics.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list

I must admit that I am a bi-metallic collector and do not think you could find better looking coins (in some cases) the th bi-metallics.... but then I am biased! Look at the fine example that graceoutcast posted.
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 Posted 05/16/2007  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list
I do like dollar coins, though, Presidents included. I use them as much as I can. I like that Brazil bi-metallic coin too.
Here is the $2 bi-metallic concept coin I made and proposed to various members of Congress:
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 Posted 05/16/2007  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list
dcarr,

They're beautiful! I think that if the coin is a $2 coin, for instance, it should have $2 worth of silver, along with the other metals in it. Nice design though!
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 Posted 05/16/2007  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list
>>>
They're beautiful! I think that if the coin is a $2 coin, for instance, it should have $2 worth of silver, along with the other metals in it. Nice design though!
<<<

Well, the ones I made have $3.30 worth of silver in them (1/4 troy oz 999 center with brass ring).
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 Posted 05/16/2007  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list
I pretty much echo Rigoletto's thoughts in the first post of this thread.

I would bet that I was one of the very first CCF members to get on the Presidential dollars Bandwagon. When I first heard of the proposed legislation, I was thrilled. Having been a history teacher for 35 years, and offering a course specifically about the Presidents -- I was very pleased indeed.

Now that it's happened, I would have to say I am happy with the coins overall. I really like the reverse, and I have seen a lot of excitment among people who saw them for the first time. I think that excitment will translate into more coin collectors. And, I hope that the coins will cause some people to want to learn more about Presidents they know very little, or nothing, about. Learn things not just about the Presidents, but perhaps events that took place during their term(s) in office.

The negatives. I am not too thrilled with the obverses. They look like a token from Chuckie Cheese. On the other hand, perhaps there's not much more a designer can do regarding the obverse.

Perhaps because my eyesight has taken some hits in recent years, I don't like the edge letttering. I have trouble reading it.

Also, I don't like what I consider as downright deception. All the hype in the legislation, and from the mint, regarding the importance of establishing the new dollar as a circulating coin. Boloney! Those involved in making the Presidential dollars a reality realized they would not circulate, but would be a cash cow for the Government. Most of my friends have yet to see a Washington Dollar. It wouldn't have bothered me if those in charge had either just admitted why the dollar would be produced, or said nothing at all. Claiming that getting a dollar coin to circulate was part of the reason for the new coins is ridiculous. We all know that geting rid of the $1 bill is what's needed.

To conclude, I'm happy we have the new Dollar, but it certainly has its downsides.
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 Posted 05/16/2007  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rigoletto to your friends list
I am truely humbled to be part of this Forum. The people that I am learning from and communicating with this past week have really inspired me to work on my collection and also involve my children more in the hobby.

I was working on a 20th Century Type set for my 3 kids aged 3, 6 and 9. Then about 3 weeks ago the company that I work for closed for good so my coin budget is pretty much gone until I find something else. These past two weeks have been brutal as I get bypassed or rejected for one reason or another.

I had also started a circulated Franklin folder and the new Presidential dollars for them. They were getting very involved and now they keep asking when we can get more coins. I love that they are excited about collecting, and it really stinks that this is what is happening to my family now.

Also, Mr. Carr I really like your designs. I emailed you a couple years ago before you started producing some of your pieces. I asked you if you were going to mint some of them and you said it was a possibility for the future. I bought one of your Sac patterns when you first minted hem.

I like your Prez Dollars much more than the mints, esp in proof. I designed a Lincoln Cent prototype that I wish I could submit for the redesign in 2009. Any advice?
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 Posted 05/16/2007  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
It may be a bit early to pan all the President dollars as ugly. Yes, the Washington coin is ugly, but from what I have seen I think the John Adams coin looks much nicer.

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They're beautiful! I think that if the coin is a $2 coin, for instance, it should have $2 worth of silver, along with the other metals in it.

You must be joking. As soon as silver rose slightly all of them would disappear from circulation. The only way a silver coin can be introduced into circulation and remain there is if the silver value is just a fraction of the coins face value. Look at it this way. A $2 bimetallic coin with a 90% silver center that had $1 worth of siver in it would have a center about the size of a dime and could circulate until silver reached $28 an oz. With $2 worth of silver the center would be the size of a nickel and would circulate until silver reached about $14.25 In other words, not long. (Not to mention that with the $2 value of the silver, plus the cost of the metal in the outer ring, plus the manufacturing cost, the mint would already be coining it at a loss.)
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 Posted 05/17/2007  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rigoletto to your friends list
Thanks for the interesting viewpoints guys.
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 Posted 05/17/2007  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
The new dollar coins are so uninteresting they don't even qualify to have their artistic merits judged. There have been so many great portraits of the Presidents that the Mint apparently went out of its way to ignore them all.

I'm also pretty sure the Professor was not involved with creating Sacagawea's offspring. I will leave the reason for that up to you since this is a family forum.
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05/17/2007 8:42 pm
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