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2013 Silver/Gold Proof Britannia Will Be Announced On 5 July

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 Posted 07/05/2013  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list
I'm not expecting much. Even if I get a reply it will probably just be a bunch of rhubarb about the costs of creating a new design and packaging.
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 Posted 07/05/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list
Any ideas to why Britannia has what appears to be an owl?
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 Posted 07/05/2013  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list

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Any ideas to why Britannia has what appears to be an owl?



Except for the fact that an owl represents wisdom, I don't know.
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 Posted 07/05/2013  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Who wouldnt want a pet owl

According to the site its to symbolize her wisdom. They also mentioned that the Britiannia design started under the Romans so there could be more to it than just wisdom as they had several meanings to the Romans.

Good for hunting too but I'm probably reading way to deep into the image
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 Posted 07/05/2013  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
Well, ....

a- I have no choice, I try and collect all world mint coins proof and silver so I guess I will be stalking ebay.

b- why on earth are they doing a 1/20th oz?! 1/10 oz is fine enough... sheeshhhh

c- are they going to finally do a capsule that the lid/cover stays on?! lol
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 Posted 07/05/2013  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list
I like the new design better than some of the recent ones and would love to buy it if the prices of the Britannia's ever take a dip. The scene harkens back to a Minerva fresco I still remember from a college class on some aspect of Ancient Rome. I looked for it online but couldn't find what I was looking for. It actually might have been Pallas Athena, come to think of it. Regardless, the coin also reminded me, in subtle ways, of a Europa coin from Switzerland that I purchased years ago.

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Yup, my favorite coin case design is actually made by the Brits, I think. Coincidentally, I first discovered it when I won a 4-coin Britannia set back in 2008. Instead of the lids snapping off in typically Air-tite fashion, they twist off, making them pretty much impossible to come apart very easily. Another difference is the cases have a distinctive ridge running all the way around the edge, so the lip hangs over the coin holder box vs just fitting snugly in a recess as is customary. I'd show you a pic but I don't have one of the cases handy at the moment.
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 Posted 07/06/2013  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HarveyJMartha to your friends list
Proof gold and silver Britannia are overpriced. Proof coins are for collectors and maybe that's why the premium price. I buy bullion coins for investment, so guess will have to look at this debutant only from a distance....
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 Posted 07/07/2013  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list
So far, I have found one dealer with a silver proof on pre-order. When you add shipping the price different is £4.10 if you pay by debit card, if paying by credit card, the savings is £1.30.

Search continues for an uncirculated one.

Ken
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 Posted 07/07/2013  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
Count me for these, other than ebay for an auction, options seems limited, and of course The Royal Mint. Not much else going on...

I like the sets, I think the bigger coins are better for the gold set, not a fan of 1/20th oz, but I mean if you want something to represent the UK the smaller sizes I guess are good. I cant see tho making Royal Mint coins the center piece of a collection.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list
Okay, here was my reply to my email to the RM asking about their prices:


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Hello

Thank you for your e mail.

Rises in production costs, inflation and metal costs have resulted in the recent price rises. Please be assured that The Royal Mint does not wish to exploit of any of its customers and therefore prices are varied as little as possible. Overall, the prices across The Royal Mint's large and exquisite product range are very competitive. Please note that The Royal Mint offers a 30 days buy back guarantee.

Kind regards
Laurie


Meanwhile, back on earth...


No seriously, this is crap. I can accept production costs but inflation and rises in the cost of precious metals? Inflation isn't running that high and precious metals have come way down in price over the last 18 months.

As for their "competitive prices", well you need only look at the prices charged for comparable coins from America or Australia to see that's nonsense.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list
That looks very similar to the response I got a few years ago when I asked a similar question and silver was over $30 an ounce.
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 Posted 07/24/2013  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list
I'm wondering, why didn't they make a better quality version of the old Britannia instead?
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 Posted 07/24/2013  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list
@canadapenny

Which do you mean?
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 Posted 07/24/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list
I mean the original phillip nathan design, only .999 fine and with the same quality of 2012 and prior brittanias.
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 Posted 07/25/2013  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list
I think the Phillip Nathan design is used in the bullion version of the coin now and from 2013 onwards the bullion version is .999 fine.
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