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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems a bit risky, too. For the majority of folks I wouldn't recommend buying a 1000 ASE's at the current spot price. Of course, everyone's need and circumstances aren't the same.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the links guys. Will be looking into it. Guy is not in a hurry which makes it tougher on my part as silver jumps around. Funny thing is that the person that wants the coins is a multi million dollar oil person. He is going through a stamp guy that does not do internet stuff (he is not quite worth a million unless you count his stamp business). So the stamp guy is going through me for the coins. I will be marking them up some and the stamp guy will also. Therefore, the client will be paying around $33 each. Money will be given up front at least. Oil guy to stamp guy to coin guy. Odd for sure. On a different note, this stamp guy gets odd clients. I had him buying a 1926s Wheat cent every week for 3 months for $15 each. I was made an average of $7 per coin. He was selling them to a client for $30 each. Mind you this was 1 client buying all of these for way over book value.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
"Odd for sure" is putting it mildly. Self-made multi-millionaires ordinarily tend to be intelligent, cognizant and wary, but this one is ready to pay 50% over the going market rate for a giant amount of ASEs at a time when silver prices are known to be unstable and on the slide.
"Odd for sure" is putting it very mildly.
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New Member
 United States
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The sad thing is that most of the stamp guy clients are older people that don't use computers and have the extra money to spend. He may be a self-made millionare but that is just from finding oil on his property and them buying the surrounding properties with the profits and finding more oil. Not much knoweldge needed for that, just luck.
I know the stamp guy told him $35 each and he countered at the $33.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
That's really kind of a sad story, but I still envy the poor guy anyhow. Too bad for him that he doesn't know how to go shopping, though. I found some oil on my land one time, too. Unfortunately, it was only the oil stain on my driveway that had been left there by my old Harley...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
Well this thread took an unexpectedly sad turn.
First off, we're all familiar with this here thing called the Interwebs so I see no point in "calling anyone out" or pointing fingers. Sometimes things are best politely taken with a grain of salt. At worst, well, some threads were meant to be ignored.
Second, I think it's important to remember that this site has both coin buyers *and* sellers. The story behind this thread was rather interesting until the specifics of the "deal" were revealed. While we all appreciate a well negotiated transaction, price gouging (or the appearance there of) is a real sore point with many members. Giving benefit of the doubt to the OP, I think it was unwise to discuss price without providing additional context as to the "value added" service you were providing to justify such a premium per coin. However, bragging about taking advantage of someone's ignorance is unlikely to get much approval around here. Enough about that.
BUT...getting back to what I was originally going to post. To the question someone posted about why the buyer wouldn't be savvy enough to just buy coins on the Internet, there is a type of person, often smart and successful, and "yes" of a certain age, who would never ever make a serious business transaction over the Internet. For this person, such transactions require personal, face to face communication with their chosen broker or dealer or financial advisory or CPA or whatever. For this person it's less about price and more about the relationship with the person on the other side of the transaction. Such buyers are rare in this day and age, but a few are still out there.
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New Member
 United States
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I agree coinwatch. I am looking at it as I am buying the coins and adding a $3 profit. The person who is buying from me is then adding his premium (which is more then mine). Not my fault. To me, and I could be wrong, is that a $3 markup is acceptable since the taxes eat up some of it. I personally would not mark up any coin that much. I tend to go my numismedia prices when selling coins. I see it all the time though as places like the Littleton Coin Co. will sell a $3-$4 Mercury dime for just under $10 and people eat it right up. Remember that final buyer is the one making the price. He was going to mark it up to that amount even if I did not add the $3. I did not think I was bragging as I a small time buyer who has never bought this many coins before and just asked a simple question since I value many members on this site. Maybe I should of not given out details but I thought it was interesting. Yes, there are still people out there that don't have Internet and why he does not have somebody else look at it I don't know but it is what it is. I don't know if it is his choice or just where he lives. I know many people that would love to live "off the grid" if they could. I have asked for this topic to be deleted because of the turn in events and feel bad it got that way it just annoys me that I was called a liar and am afraid I will be marked that way for now on.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Don't worry about it, E. People are generally pretty fair on this site. People get treated the way they deserve, for the most part. You're new but once members know you're not either selling something or trolling, you'll fit in fine.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Ill second the notion not to worry about it. Coin brought up a good point about people valuing buying things not on the internet, and sometimes people with a lot of money just dont care. 3 dollars from you isn't a bad markup, if they want to pay that for it thats their choice. As long as you arent selling fakes or being misleading about anything you really arent doing anything wrong, its not like youre taking advantage of a one time buyer trying to get a birthday present selling them a bag of lies about what theyre buying or selling stolen coins.
Its one of those things that just is what it is. Coin shop prices get defended a lot as dealers having to pay their bills which is true, but the same holds true here. If youre going to take a loss or not make any money theres no point in you making such a substantial purchase for someone that seems like you dont have a close personal relationship with
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Valued Member
United States
362 Posts |
goldmart currently has them for $22.93 each
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Valued Member
United States
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Jack Hunt in Buffalo has a website...and it says call for pricing...his number is Contact Us For PROFESSIONAL SCRAP and BULLION DEALERS: Fill out the adjacent form to submit a question or comment.* *PLEASE NOTE: We can only respond to dealer inquiries. Trading Hours: Mon-Fri 8:30AM â€" 5:15 PM EST Toll Free (800) 877-7424 Local (716) 874-1082 Fax (716) 873-1510 Mail via USPS PO Box 194 Kenmore, NY 14217 For UPS & FedEx 2746 Delaware Ave. Kenmore, NY 14217 For RETAIL CUSTOMERS: Hours: Mon-Fri 9:00AM â€" 5:00 PM EST Phone: (716) 874-7777 Web / Email: http://www.JackHuntGoldSilver.comStreet Address 2746 Delaware Ave. Kenmore, NY 14217
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New Member
 United States
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Well the money is on its way, It will probably be a week or so before I get a check then I will check out prices from the websites.
At todays price, I am at a 10% markup and my stamp guy is at a 20% markup. Now the % can change depending on what slver does next week. I am getting min. 5% markup even if silver jumps high.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
Hope all goes well, ewaste. I've never liked having too many hands in a transaction but sometimes it's unavoidable. All you can do to protect yourself is documentation and taking all of the usual precautions: photographs of the sealed monster boxes before hand off, insurance and tracking if a delivery service is involved, and a signed receipt of goods upon delivery. This purchase is just big enough to maybe result in a lawsuit if things go wrong. Assume nothing and take all necessary precautions to protect your liability and reputation.
I'm not giving legal advice here. I'm only throwing out my .02 cents.
Edited by coinwatch 07/19/2013 2:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2764 Posts |
Please keep us update. I also hope all will go well for you.
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Valued Member
United Arab Emirates
283 Posts |
That is a HUMONGOUS order!
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