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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very sorry to hear what happen.
If you would take pictures or create a video of yourself putting the items inside it. Then you would have proof showing you packed the package. ( I know it's too late, but I am just letting you know so if it happens next time, you got proof.)
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Valued Member
United States
286 Posts |
Even photos wouldn't vindicate one as the seller could photograph everything, but could not prove the coin was in the envelop when mailed. It's hard to prove everything conclusively.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
607 Posts |
But when I asked him for pictures of the envelope he received he would not send them to me. That's what I found really odd
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I NEVER use ebay for big ticket items, unless I personally know the seller, or their reputation is of the highest order, and is well known by everyone.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1536 Posts |
You are not responsible for this situation, you are covered by Seller protection. Don't refund him, let them escalate it to support. You provided tracking that was marked delivered and have signature confirmation. Unfortunately most people are honest, 1 out of 25 people are sociopaths according to Harvard psychologist who wrote the book "The Sociopath Next Door". They will also be able to investigate his activity to see if this is something he has done in the past. Just call support and tell them your side of the story. ebay does also have policy about abusing their buyer protection or abusing their other policies. Are you in Canada as well? You may want to check ebay's seller protections for Canada. They still may side with you anyhow especially if the seller has a history of this stuff.
Edited by buddy16cat 07/28/2013 03:57 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
607 Posts |
I hope so buddy16cat. Paypal is asking him for more information at this point. Ill keep you guys updated on what happens.
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Pillar of the Community
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
They reviewed his past history, compared to yours.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1536 Posts |
Glad to hear you were covered by seller protection. I wonder if the buyer has done this before or they simply covered and refunded the buyer? If the buyer has a history of it, I would think they would charge them.
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Valued Member
Ireland
201 Posts |
Just a thought Jkol,, although it's a bit late now. When you posted the item you had to pay for it according to its weight. If there was nothing in the package then I would have thought the price would have been negligible. Whereas if a coin was inside, the cost of postage would surely reflect this. Maybe this will help someone in the future.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: When you posted the item you had to pay for it according to its weight. If there was nothing in the package then I would have thought the price would have been negligible. Whereas if a coin was inside, the cost of postage would surely reflect this. If you had the actual weight of the package received on the post office receipt that could help for someone that claims it was empty. The postage itself though wouldnt really help. It may be different where you are but in the US the post office lets you over pay for weight if you want. I could send an empty bubble mailer with postage for a 10 pound package if I really wanted too. They may ask if you want to redo it cheaper but if you say its fine theyll send it.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2135 Posts |
I was just about to ask why the post office would allow you to spend more on postage than you need, when I realised that's exactly what happens with first day covers - where typically philatelists affix the complete set of stamps to an empty envelope.
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Valued Member
Canada
227 Posts |
It's really unfortunate that for most coin collectors who want to sell a few coins here and there to enhance their collections it's 'seller beware' when it comes to using ebay and PayPal. I've lost a few coins, worth a few bucks only, to people who say they never received them. Tracking and registered mail is just too expensive for a 5-dollar order. So seller...  'beware.' Check a potential buyer's feedback before completing a simple transaction. If it don't seem right... it probably ain't right. 
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