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 with Enworb on this as well.. Thank's Mate!! |
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The 50¢ and 20¢ appear to have been severely bent, and then straightened out again, resulting in the metal tearing. An immense amount of force would have to be used to bend and straighten out a copper /Nickel coin in the sizes of these. I see no evidence of this force being applied to the 20 and 50 cent coins. There are NO Marks on the Rims of these coins to suggest this occurred. The $2 coin is obviously a deep cut or scratch as the rims bear witness to this. It is also highly unlikely to find a lam flaw that is perfectly straight and without the normal jaggedness usually associated with these Still all in all a bloody nice haul for jpl's weekend noodling, well done Mate   Edited by trout1105
09/15/2013 04:40 am
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Thank's Trout  , Excellent new's. My eye's are a wreak after this week, Hope you picked up a pretty Penny or 2 your self  . Cheer's jpl.. PS, Will take another look at that 2005 $2 Tomorrow, could well be a scratch?  |
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What do the other sides of the 20¢ and 50¢ look like? If I'm correct, I would expect to see some sign of the process on the other side as well.
I'm always happy to be proved wrong, but my assumption, with damage like this running directly across the coin from one edge to the other, would be post-mint damage caused by stress fracturing. The 20¢ is particularly suspicious - I would take the V-shaped groove running parallel to the crack as evidence of being caught in a vice or some similar piece of machinery.
I see this effect on mediaeval hammered coins all the time; it was common practice back then to fold coins in half around a piece of string to keep them safe; finders of such bent coins often try to straighten them out, with edge-to-edge cracking the result.
Of course, hammered silver coins are much thinner and weaker than modern cupronickel coins; as trout said, it takes a lot of carefully applied force to bend a modern coin. But this is the 21st century; we have had the technology to apply such forces for quite some time now.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Sorry Sap  , But I will have to reject your Reality & Substitute my own. I have quite a few more of these 20ct & 50ct coin's, all Following the Grain of the Metal Flaw's! and Verified Here . To many coin's to get Stuck in a Machine?  jpl.. PS, It is Patina stripe's your looking at! The line's are the Grain of the Metal Flow when Set, and a V Groove running along side? Is there Any Body in There  What Tool/Machine Mark's Where?  Edited by jpl
09/15/2013 5:48 pm
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Hi all, I think we got a bit off subject here somewhere  . I would like to have a Grade OP of my 1976 50ct  ? Birth Date  Thank's People jpl.. Edited by jpl
09/15/2013 05:52 am
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I think it is :
Australian About Uncirculated
American AU53 or AU55
It is a very nice find from circulation.
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The 76 looks aUNC to me as well.
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Good Morning all , Just in regard's to my other Question's in OP? #1, 1997 Kingsford $1 NCLT a Value update please? #2, any Grade OP's for the 1971 COA & the 1998 B/Flinder's? #3, Concerning 2009 $1 Roo Cud? ( see OP ) for question! #4, How common are the Double Rim Cud's on the $2 coin? #5, What is the current Value of the 2011 10ct pieces? Thank's in advance & Cheer's jpl.. Please don't forget me? Edited by jpl
09/15/2013 5:46 pm
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Quote:#4, How common are the Double Rim Cud's on the $2 coin? I would say not very common at all. I have at least 45 x $2's with rim Cuds and only 2 of them have double Cuds, 1x 1999 and 1 x 1998, both on the reverses. Approx positions 1999 (5 - 5.30k and 8-9k), and 1998(6-7k and 8.30-9k). Out of the 45 coins, only 12 have the Cuds on the Obv. A few of my rim Cud coins can be seen here: https://goccf.com/t/122868life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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#1, 1997 Kingsford $1 NCLT a Value update please? You could probably get a couple of dollars on ebay because it has been through circulation. With the packaging they sell for around $4-$6. Quote:
#2, any Grade OP's for the 1971 COA & the 1998 B/Flinder's? I think the 1971 is gEF-aunc or AU50, but I am not too good at grading decimal coins. Quote:#4, How common are the Double Rim Cud's on the $2 coin? I agree with nancy, only I have found 2 with one Cud and 1 with two CudsQuote:
#5, What is the current Value of the 2011 10ct pieces? I sell them for around $3-$5 |
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Thank's Nancyc & Flippy , just what I needed Cheer's I have to work out "again" how to use Paint to combine my Pic's, and try and resize them so they fit here without being to small or image quality loss? jpl.. |
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I forgot about the Bass and Flinders, I dont think that I can see any wear, so I think it is UNC or MS62.
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I have to work out "again" how to use Paint to combine my Pic's, and try and resize them so they fit here without being to small or image quality loss? There are free alternatives to Paint. But Paint is all you need. First keep all the original shots. As a general rule open them one by one in Paint select 'all' then copy. For each coin open a new file then paste the obv and rev into it, you may need to zoom in or out and manipulate the images so they are side by side and the same size. Save the result with a meaningful name like 2013.Dollar.10Cent.Mule ha ha. Then resize according to whatever the forum requirements are. Note there may be a limit on pixels and mb, not sure what it is here. |
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