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Central American Republic Coins And Related 1824 - Abt 1860

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 Posted 10/29/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
This is the 1830 T F one Real struck in Honduras. It is common and about the size of a nickel.

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 Posted 10/29/2013  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
I love CAR coins. Have a few of the 8 reales and a small group of high grade/mint state 1/4 reales as well as a 1/2 escudo. My favorite is this Estado de Guatemala provisional issue, never thought I would own one of these but luck was on my side =)

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 Posted 10/30/2013  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
The 1829 provisional is scarce and somewhat expensive. I have seen four or five specimens and so far have identified only one die pair. One of mine was holed and gold plated. (see below)

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 Posted 10/31/2013  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
Krause has listed 4 known examples for any years now, but that number should be at least 20 and probably there are a good 50 or more out there. I've noticed two different dies. One where the right side near the tree is bulging out, like the coin I posted and your coin in the bottom right, and other that are normal and flat.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
So far as I can determine the bulged die is only a later state of the flat die so only one die pair for these 1892 reals. However I need to study the coins a bit more before I am certain of the previous statement.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
Here are a couple of the scarce 1845 G Quartillas. The second coin shows a die break on the obverse that get progressively worse.

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 Posted 11/11/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list
Hello Jay, in response to your question at the start of this thread, I collect a sample or two. Specialize in Mexico with a weakness for colonial and first reform.

But there are some outstanding central and south American crowns, the foremost being the CAR 8R. Just won a 1837 Peru Cuzco 8R at the Baltimore auction. Looking for a decent Chile volcano peso.

In regards to CAR, does anyone know the history of the outstanding 1/4Rs on the market? Gem 1830s and 40s.

Posting a photo of my CAR 8R and a Guatemala peso. I really like the guns and swords and bird and whatever else is in the design.



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 Posted 11/12/2013  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list
I suppose later die state makes perfect sense, since there are really no other differences, at least to the naked eye.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
Jay, that 2nd 1845 cuartillo is sharp! I assume the die break is the blob between the 1st and 2nd mountains?

Also, is that 5 struck over something?
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 Posted 12/28/2013  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidrj to your friends list
Things got very messy in Honduras after the breakup of the Federation,

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they dont come in much better condition than this one
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 Posted 03/05/2014  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
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I guess I'll join the party, this is my only coin I own that's denominated in reales. It's 2 reales from 1847 - it was priced at $8.50 and listed as AG, but I bought it with many other cheap coins and the dealer halved the price because I looked young and impressionable! Well, I appreciated it for about $4. My logic was that since this coin looked really crude, it probably suffered not from wear but a crappy strike and would be graded higher than AG. I think I was right! I thought it was a contemporary counterfeit, but it looks like all Honduras coins of this era look awful. The high points look like copper showing through from underneath a thin silver wash, but I think the coin's really low fineness is to blame. With the amount of silver in it it is not really worth counterfeiting...
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 Posted 05/20/2014  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
Westwood Arms. I don't know where the current high grade Quartillas originated from. Back a few years I purchased 400 Quartillas, a hoard that came out of Guatemala but the coins were low grade.
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 Posted 05/20/2014  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
RealesWatcher. The blob on the 1845 Quartilla is a progressive die break. The seller thought it was solder from a button. I will check on the "5".
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 Posted 05/21/2014  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samboyellowsub to your friends list
I love that sun behind the mountains design.
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 Posted 05/23/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list
The 1845 Quartilla date is not struck over something. Just a spot of toning.
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