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Bedrock of the Community
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To my knowledge the 1974 Al cents were business strikes, not mirrored proofs or glossy some would say. They are pics of genuine pieces available on Google Images. Take a look and you'll likely agree you have a replica set in a nice holder.
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Pillar of the Community
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How do the coins feel when you pick them up? What about dropping them? Is the rim slippery?
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I can't pick them up in hand due to the casing. I had read in other places that proofs were released. I purposely tilted the case to get the light to reflect off the coins.
For anyone interested I have found out congressmen were given the coins to look at. I found some congressional reports to verify this.
West Point Mint began manufacturing pennies in 1973 (no evidence to support they made aluminum pennies)
I will probably try to remove them from the casing to be able to weigh them.
I personally collect coins for the history not the value, so I enjoy learning new facts about the US government and metal fluctuations throughout history.
Edited by Jrock 11/10/2013 5:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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When you leave the USA you can sell them if they're real, lol.
You should remove the case.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: I will probably try to remove them from the casing to be able to weigh them I doubt that can be done without scratching the coins. I don't think you will ever get them out. It's not like the Lucite will fall away and leave you with clean coins. It will be on those coins -- quite possibly for all eternity. So imagine chipping away at it while looking though a microscope.... You might be better off with an antique dealer -- and forget about the coins for now -- and see if you can't get a definite history about the desk set items. People do weird stuff to coins all the time -- making novelty items is just one of them.
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Yeah I will have to decide on something. I doubt their authenticity, but a part of me wants to find out for sure. The guy is still alive and he's probably the only one who would know for sure.
"he used the scheme to finance his children's college tuition, contributions to his own retirement fund in _________ State, boats, motors, snowmobiles, and other items, and for subsidizing continued employment of his brother in an insurance firm."
That was in 1976. So my mind wants to believe if HE did have the coins he surely knew the feds would find them.
Than 2 or 3 years later a deposit bag from a town of around 1200 people(which he lived in) ends up in Bellevue, Nebraska(one of the largest airforce bases) with fake aluminum pennies.
So who knows? I'll figure something out. Thanks to all who posted.
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Valued Member
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pretty cool story...i'll be following this thread! :)
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Pillar of the Community
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I remember when the stories about the aluminum cent started in 1974. They either said the coins were never minted, or they were minted and destroyed.
I'm sure, based on your photos, that your coins are simply normal copper cents that have had a silvery coating added to them--just like reprocessed 1943 steel cents--simply for the sake of presentation.
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Those appear to be all large dates.
Aluminum pennies should be small dates.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Everything I have read about Aluminum pennies say that they large dates and I believe the known coins all have large dates. I hope I'm going crazy. I'm looking at the other coins from the bag: 1964 Quarter seems to have arrows between the 1 and 9. D between 9 and 6. An arrow behind the head. And a long line with what appears to be a sideway V to the right of Washington's head. The 1964 Nickel is slightly toned when tilted. And I haven't really got to the dime yet.    
Edited by Jrock 11/11/2013 04:45 am
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Hmmm after taking pictures of the quarter the casing began to crack LOL. Again... Quality isn't the greatest. It is In picture 4 you can see there is something between the 9 and 6. To me under a magnifying glass it looks like a D and from different views I swear it's a 4. The arrows between 1 and 9 can't really be seen... but in Picture 1 there is another arrow below the ear(maybe it just looks that way since I've looked at it under a magnifying glass. I have only basic knowledge of coins, so let me know what you guys think.  Obvious Double Die on E and R Sorry if I'm posting too much... I just keep finding new stuff out.
Edited by Jrock 11/11/2013 06:33 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Common Lucite desk set with regular cents embedded in it. For some reason cents in Lucite often seem to take on a weird appearance.
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Yeah I do more than likely agree now. I took the 1964 quarter, dime, and nickel to a coin shop today and two places said the coins were polished. The guy said the quarter was struck pretty well, but the nickel appeared to be a weak striking? The nickel is way darker than the rest of the coins, no one was interested in the nickel toning lol. He said the Bag was probably a personal bag for someone because it wasn't your typical bank deposit bag. It has strings. I don't know why someone would polish a 1964 Quarter and Dime, but who knows. He didn't notice the double die(if it is) on the quarter until I showed him the picture and he looked at it and said it was probably machine. He did notice the ribbons between the 1 and 9 --- and 9 and 6. The S in States tails up to the E pretty nicely. The T E R in Quarter seems to have one single line connecting them. The A in DOLLAR appears to be solid and just barely missing the Leaf. He also noticed the lines below the hair extended from the 4 by about a 1/4th inch. At the second of two coin shops I went to, I asked the old guy about the pennies, he said he didn't believe they were plated or dipped. He thought the pennies were regular 1974 pennies and the Lucite gave them the different color. I guess it's all one big coincidence... It will be a story to tell in the future. Lol a bag from Cattaraugus County New York ends up in Bellevue(connected to omaha pretty much Omaha but remains its own city) with fake aluminum pennies and polished quarters and 1964 pennies with such differences I can't even explain.  I think the nickel looks pretty cool. I went to places mainly trying to buy gold and silver. Omaha, Nebraska's finest :) Maybe a mistake. On a positive note, I have about 2000 wheat pennies to go through :)
Edited by Jrock 11/11/2013 7:05 pm
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Rest in Peace
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The coins were probably cleaned and polished so they would look pretty in the Lucite.
Good luck with the wheaties.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sorry, the coins have been plated prior to the encasement...manufacturer trying to make them "pretty".
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