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1997 Phantom D Penny With Poodle Image

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 Posted 06/23/2007  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list
Can anyone else see the poodle in the coin? How about the cat face or standing Indian with bow and arrow. The Indian has some kind of skirt on and you can see his face and bald head and lower legs and feet. He is some kind of warrior. Look also for the numbers 3,5,7,8 all over the coin. Very light detail to see the numbers. For example, there is a large 7 and 5 below the date. They are written in big block lettering like if you were using a stencil.
This must be a filled die error, possibly, or clashed die. I will include the phantom D picture so you can see the phantom D mintmark.
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 Posted 06/23/2007  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Just in case you're not actually joking...

The 'pictures' you are seeing are the result of light circulation and the dirt associated with that making the metal change colors every so slightly to produce stippling and the stuff you can evidently see on the coin. A few things...

If you use your imagination enough you can pick anything out of anything. That doesn't make it collectible as such.

You may want to concentrate on looking for coins that are much more obvious as being different from the norm. This stuff you're finding obviously took a really hard look and a lot of time - time wasted in my opinion.
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 Posted 06/23/2007  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list
Did you look at the 116.jpg photo. It is still a phantom D coin and that is how I originally found it. I found the poodle and other numbers by taking its photo. I enjoy coin collecting, so it is not a waste of time.
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 Posted 06/23/2007  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Hi Honestabe

Welcome to the forum ,, While I agree with the others as to the nature of your coin The image of the poodle that your are seeing is likely a relic of the fingerprint and circulation of the coin, the Images are not clear enough to really define the D while I see something I cannot confirm or deny its existence.

Coppercoins is a well known expert on Cents and has to His credit a few books as well as an extensive website and photo gallery of many many Lincoln cents while being direct and to the point His opinions are always done with thought and knowledge .



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 Posted 06/23/2007  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list
Poodle?
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 Posted 06/23/2007  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list
The phantom D is more clear in the 116.jpg picture. I can see a raised portion like an island below the date and when I turn the coin up to the light, I can see a Slight D bulging out of the island. Now, I found it by looking at the book,"Strike It Rich With Your Pocket Change", and it looks very similar to their picture in the book for a Phantom D coin. It is actually easier to see with the magnifying glass than to take a good photo of it, but I keep trying. I have had 2 people tell me they can see the poodle in the coin in the obverse picture. I took another photo this morning and I can still see it right below the tip of the nose. It is a white poodle with black eyes and black nose and snout and ears. Maybe you can see its legs. You have to elarge it to see it, but not too much or it becomes pixelated. I cannot see the poodle with my magnifying glass as of yet. I have a fairly nice coin collection and I will submit some more coins.
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 Posted 06/23/2007  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
The "Phantom D" 1997 cent is common. I have a few rolls of them that I found and set aside in case there was a market for them, which there isn't.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list
If you can't see the poodle yet, I have circled it in the poodle.jpg photo. You cannot see it as good in your internet browser, so I suggest saving it to your hard drive, then open it in a jpeg viewer like Microsoft Photo Editor, then magnify 200 percent. You may have to go to 400 percent, but it becomes more pixelated.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list
I wanted to mention also that I did not use any photo editing software to insert an image on the coin. I do not own any photo editing software except Serif and I don't know how to use that. So, this is not an inserted image onto the coin. I promise that this is just a regular digital photo close up of the 1997 penny. Does anyone know how a poodle would get on a coin? Is it some kind of laser image or could the die have a poodle image on the coin? The only editing I can do is with Dell Image Expert and I cannot insert images as I do not have the full version. I can basically only draw colored lines and brighten the image only.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brefos77 to your friends list
Coppercoins is right. The Phantom D is pretty common. Honestabe, you remind me of myself...trying to find an error in every coin you find! (lol, just kidding!)
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 Posted 06/24/2007  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
I am sorry to be blunt but the point needs to be made.

There is nothing there except what your own imagination makes of it. It is no different then when someone sees a face of Jesus in a tree or mary in a grilled cheese. Others might see it too because they want to. They strive to find something that's just made of shadows and imperfections in the coin due to wear.

I'm sure you see something....but you have to understand that not everyone is going to see the same thing as you do.

We love unique and interesting coins so don't loose heart and feel free to always keep posting.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
I see nothing on the coin before or after I took my meds lol just kidding there lol
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 Posted 06/24/2007  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add magusxxx to your friends list
I don't see a poodle. But I do see someone who needs to stay away from Great Clips.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list
I think you edited so much that your seeing a "poodle" sorry
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 Posted 06/25/2007  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
I actually thought the original post in this thread was a joke, a crack at people who collect coins under a loupe. I still have a hard time believing anyone would seriously believe there's a poodle on a coin as a mint error. Sorry, I call them like I see them. There's nothing on the coin except a fingerprint and some toning down due to light circulation. Whatever shapes it makes is nothing more than pictures in clouds.
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