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Valued Member
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Also if you click on the actual image it clears some of the spots out and looks better
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Moderator
 United States
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The bill is real it's just the extra error image that I wasn't sure about. The counterfeit pens interact with the paper...not the ink. If it's a legit error it might get $40+ on ebay but I'm not sure. Most 20$ errors staring bids on ebay are so inflated that a Lot don't even sell. After looking at several other examples I'm leaning more towards possibly being legit however that small crease in the ink copy leaves me wondering. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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  These are two complete obverse overprint notes I have that are only 4 serial numbers apart. They are UNC and nearly sequential which makes them more valuable. Your note is a partial obverse overprint. It isn't the rarest error ever made, but with this kind of error, the condition it's in, and as far as market prices go on ebay, I would say it's worth $60-$80 range. Mine costed me $220 for the pair. And a coin dealer in town has ONE ten dollar obverse overprint error in circulated condition and he still wants $300 for the single one. Yeah, it's a reidiculous price if you ask me, but if someones willing to buy it then I guess the notes worth that much. Bet it takes him a while to sell it. Ty |
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wow I love the look of those 10s, I wouldnt pay 300 for one of them though that really is crazy. but I bet your right its gotta take him for ever to sell that. I really just love the old style notes, but I really like them with the error they are very nice.
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Valued Member
United States
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this is the 2nd one of these that I have found in the last few months. I think you looked at the other one I had found  |
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United States
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The one is most likely fake. Bills are printed in layers and there would have been more messed up on a real one. There are alot of these one ebay. Some one with a stamp |
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United States
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on this one you can actually see where it had been folded over and taken from the other side. the places that its missing on the print the ink is still dark and where it is copied its all faded. I have another photo that shows it better but I cant seem to find it at the moment.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you would be interested in trading, I have many old style notes. Just give me a PM.
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New Member
United States
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your $20 note has what's called an offset error, (or sometimes a wet ink transfer).
the $1 is a different story. it's obvious the note was folded over, and some of the ink stuck to the other side. I'm pretty confident it wasn't a mint-made error. as laxmaster stated, notes are printed in layers. both of the seals and serial numbers are printed at the same time during the note's "third printing". if the ink was still wet during the 3rd printing, the serials and green seal would have transferred as well. I'm thinking the note was moist in somebody's sweaty wallet, was sat on, and dried with the two sides being pressed together.
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Valued Member
United States
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very cool. wish I knew more about currency
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Valued Member
United States
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ElCerritoCoins:
Hang around, the members here are really smart and don't mind sharing their info. Ask away. I've learned tons of info since joining.
LeAnn
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Valued Member
United States
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That could be a legitimate "offset" printing error.
When sheets of bills are printed, the stamping image is actually on a roller, rather than on a flat printing press. The printing roll has another roll that helps squeeze the paper against the printing roll.
When the machine malfunctions and fails to send a sheet of paper through the rollers, then the image from the printing roller gets printed on the presssure roller.
When the next sheet goes through the machine, the normal image gets printed by the printing roller, but the ghost image gets printed on the backside from the ink left on the pressure roller.
The offset image will appear on the next few sheets that go through the printer leaving a dimmer and dimmer image each time, until the extra ink gets used up and the ghost images stop getting printed.
Offset print errors are valued based upon the percent of the image that is "ghost" printed. Yours looks like about a 50%. The "darkness" of the printing also affects the value. A scarce series or a higher denomination will also affect the value.
I think the earlier estimate of a $60-80 value is probably pretty accurate.
A dark 100% offset printing on a mint $20 bill would probably be worth somewhere between $200 and $400.
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Valued Member
United States
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The picture is too unclear for me to tell
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Valued Member
United States
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On the subject of using too much ink, is this an example of it? This bill hasn't been photoshoped at all, only to scanned and resized. The ink on the seals seem to be darker than usual. Is this common among paper money?  |
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United States
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OP (and everyone else reading this), Please, never use a counterfeit pen on anything. They are useless and if the bill had a numismatic value, it is only reduced by using the pen. OP may have easily knocked this attractive error not down a grade by using the pen. Next time, use a 365NM UV light. Much more effective. Not sure what to do with it , check out the KNOW YOUR MONEY poster from the BEP here. http://www.secretservice.gov/kym_3_06.pdf |
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