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Pillar of the Community
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Should he be wearing his pearl wotsit?
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Pillar of the Community
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Nope...you'll need to delve deeper into the issue than that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Is it a Chi-Rho on the standard?
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Pillar of the Community
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It is a Chi Rho on the standard. Try and work out what this coin shows and who it shows, it might help you.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Ill give a helpful hint...this coin's legends are the words God spoke to Constantine in his vision directly before the Battle of the Old Milvian Bridge (this is the point at which Christianity routed itself in Rome).
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Valued Member
United States
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Is this the Gallus issue? The rarest of the three whose names this was issued under?
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Pillar of the Community
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Badger mint has got it - this is Constantius Gallus, the rarest emperor to be issued this type. But why should it not be?
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Pillar of the Community
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Can't fathom whay the coin "should not be" as there is an example in Wild Winds.  http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/cons...VIII_024.txtRated common, though I rarely see them for sale. Unless you are asking about why Constantius Gallus, who was never an Emperor but a Caesar, has the title " Dominus Noster"? Edited by Masis
01/04/2014 6:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Ill give you a bigger hint...look up who issued this type and when.
And common it is not, which is why I was willing to pay £10 for this example.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wildwinds says it is common. Headache getting worse.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ben's one is of Siscia, not the example I posted from Wild Winds, Sirmium. Here is what Warren states from his site on the Siscia type: " Constantius Gallus, for the advanced collector specialist in early Christian types.
AE2. 25-23 mm. 6:00.
HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS / ESIRM
This famous type was issued by Vetranio for himself, Constantius II, and Constantius Gallus.
The Gallus version is the rarest and hard to find in any shape.
As of this writing, vcoins has 11 HOC SIGNO pieces, 2 of Vetranio, 9 of Constantius II, and none are of Gallus.
RIC VIII Siscia 306." http://augustusmath.hypermart.net/tetrarchy.htmlScroll to about 3/4 of the way down to read and see the photo of the example stated. |
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Pillar of the Community
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But could Vetranio have issued this for Constantius Gallus? Indeed, could Vetranio have issued any coins from Sirmium mint? Take a look at when Vetranio was in power, and where.
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Valued Member
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I`ve got it? He was in power in Moesia, and the Siscia Mint was outside of his domain?
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Pillar of the Community
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This coin is from a mint under Vetranio's reign.
Heres why it shouldnt be:
1. Vetranio ruled in 350AD until December of that year, proclaiming himself emperor out of necessity (the guy was a real class act)
2. Constantius Gallus ruled from 351AD until 354AD.
3. All types issued by Vetranio were brand new - this means that Gallus issued a coin of himself using a reverse type made for a usurper who had been removed from the purple before his reign even started.
Was it because there were dies for it sitting in a dusty corner that may as well have been used? An accidental mule? A fan of Vetranio's quietly issuing them on the side? Did Gallus see the coinage of Vetranio whilst he reigned and like it? All that can be said is that Vetranio was not in power and only a very limited number of these coins were issued in Gallus' name (meaning that if he liked it, he didnt like it *that* much) - also, Gallus was not caesar during Vetranio's reign, so it is certain that they are issued by him.
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