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Sagendorph Token And Acetone

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 Posted 02/05/2014  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Many are dated (patent dates), typically 1878-1880, often in the US, Canada, or England.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list

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Many are dated (patent dates), typically 1878-1880,

So this is the years they came out 1878-1880? Sorry if I'm reading this wrong.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I would still give the token a coating of Verdi-Care as it will prevent more surface deterioration over time. From my understanding it adds a protective layer on the surface. I may be wrong but BadThad could answer that better as he developed it.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Yes, bpoc, those dates are when the tokens were first introduced and ads and promotions from that era confirm their distribution during that era.

The Boyd's batteries were patented in both America (1878) and England (1879), and Richardson's, patented in the US Feb 3, 1880 and registered in Canada Feb 9, 1881.

Boyd claimed in ads that the Sagendorph's Battery was a worthless ripoff by an employee, but the two tokens look alike except for the stamped names.

And yes, Westcoin, I'll try an application of VerdiCare, since these creatures are likely to continue their galvanic action no matter how they are stored.

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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Here's a Richardson's token, purchased in November...

Sagendorph-Token-And-Acetone

And the reverse, with dates...

Sagendorph-Token-And-Acetone

This is larger than the Boyd's or Sagendorph's Batteries, the size of a silver dollar. It also was made and marked in a child's size, and in another design with a cross instead of a heart.

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 Posted 02/05/2014  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I would totally wear one of those.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
Wow! That went from a green piece of crap to an awesome-looking piece in your photo - the varnish must have kept it pristine underneath and it's a very unique kind of "token". I hope you made some money on this deal
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 Posted 02/06/2014  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
To put these into perspective, 1879-1880 was the time period when Edison was perfecting his incandescent light bulb.

The first neon signs in America wouldn't be built until 1923, by French inventor Georges Claude.

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 Posted 02/06/2014  10:02 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Never heard of em before but found this on ebay...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boyds-Batte...em4d18414cad
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 Posted 02/06/2014  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiggam007 to your friends list
It definitely cleaned up really nice. Those are some really cool tokens with a pretty interesting story behind them. Might have to put one on my list of cool stuff to buy one day haha.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Well 52raymo, that one was on my watch list (certainly above average condition) but I just lurked, hoping someone here won it - did that happen?

An better example at an average price, so someone did OK on that one.

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 Posted 02/06/2014  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
No I didn't bid on it but was tempted. I love it.
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 Posted 02/07/2014  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Fantastic clean up. Now how are you going to protect it from further problems?
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 Posted 02/07/2014  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Just Verdi-Care and storage in a 2x2.

Some of the roughest ones sold online have obviously laid in the bottom of a metal container or possibly in a junk collection of metal coins and other conductive materials.

In a dry environment the galvanic action should be quite weak. In fact the basic idea of how these were supposed to work was, they would be activated by moisture from a person's body when worn next to the skin.

I started collecting these in 2006, but after tracking sales of about 200 of the Boyd's variety, I have only acquired five of them. The one in 52Raymo's link was definitely a good one, but being a bottom feeder I don't bid on most of those offered, and some are priced too high and don't attract any bids.

Of course, it is possible that the protective solvent in Verdi-Care might cause some electrolytic action, so the token will require some observation, but so far the tokens in 2x2's are looking good. Thanks for asking.
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Wow! What a cool show and tell. Thanks!
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