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Spot The Counterfeit Eagle

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 Posted 02/06/2014  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Everything about the one on the right screams fake.

.. The font is not a Mint used font
.. the spacing between the font and rim is off
.. the strike is weird
.. the dots at 3/9 o'clock are too fat
.. having it in a different sized capsule makes it look smaller but I think it is probably the same size.
.. and..it just looks fake
.. it would have been helpful to see the obverse since it has the 2006/7 round bottom "U" font. A different date would have confirmed the fake
.. it is illegal to possess since it does not have "copy" stamped on it so I wouldn't want to let on that you own it (unless you made it yourself).

Since most fakes come from China your forum name is quite appropriate

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 Posted 02/06/2014  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list
@Foxwoods Man
yinyang come from when I was a kid in the 50's in toronto, iwas ying and my best friend was yang and I do not own them they are from the net.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Here's the answer and reference posted by Denco7 on a similar thread:

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/co...?oid=3732550
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 Posted 02/06/2014  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
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 Posted 02/06/2014  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
Very cool story. I'm glad they got the counterfeiter.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Honestly, I do not see how that would pass. It screams fake. The font is wrong, the eagle is wrong. The stars are wrong. Really, just wrong all around.
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 Posted 02/06/2014  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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...The font is not a Mint used font
Look at DOLLAR--US Mint products never look that bad.
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 Posted 02/08/2014  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
Is that a fair question without knowing the weight of each? If the weight for both is the same then they are both 1 oz of silver. The smelter furnace won't know the difference when we get back to $40 oz silver!
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 Posted 02/08/2014  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list

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Is that a fair question without knowing the weight of each? If the weight for both is the same then they are both 1 oz of silver. The smelter furnace won't know the difference when we get back to $40 oz silver!


The question was which one is fake? The answer has zero to do with the weight of the coin. The one on the right is clearly not real.

What it is made of is another issue. I can't see the purpose of faking a silver ASE coin with a coin with a blank with the same weight in silver. All that work and you could have just got the real thing for the price of that ounce of silver.

I would hazard a guess that it is not silver but being sold as such. The weight WOULD be a factor here.....and, also, the date is just dumb.
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 Posted 02/08/2014  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
If you read the article, they tell you the coin is silver clad copper that is close to the weight, but not exact. Reading is fundamental.
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 Posted 02/08/2014  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list
I am still a bit befuddled that the coin shop dealer felt these were "good fakes". I am a novice and I could tell they were fake immediately. About the only person who could be fooled by these would be first time buyers...or nearly first time buyers.
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 Posted 02/09/2014  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
Weight is very important to the question of which one is fake. Atomic weight of silver is 107.8 by volume. Weight of copper is 63.5.
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 Posted 02/09/2014  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list

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I am a novice and I could tell they were fake immediately


Exactly....

Why anyone would go any further than just looking at it amazes me.

Hint: 1906.....ASE.....totally fake reverse

Probably a safe bet it ain't real. No further confirmation needed, but that's just me I guess

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02/09/2014 08:39 am
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 Posted 02/09/2014  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list
Fake U.S Silver Eagle coins soaring through Hamilton canada, police say


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ay-1.1360083

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 Posted 02/10/2014  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list
The one on the right is fake... Simply because if you know the series, the Mint never used such a font, it's totally obvious what poor imitation of what an ASE should look like. I think the Chinese could totally do better than this and make convincing fakes that would pass the eye test...
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