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You Vs PCGS: 1865 2c Piece

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Ms-62 brown?
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AU(Details).. Duh! So much for my attention to detail (i.e., "No Details)...
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AU Details I believe PCGS would detail this coin for the scratch through the 5 in the date and into the field, it looks deep and it obstructs a major point of interest, the date.

As to some other points I like the weak almost missing "S" on the reverse in States, probably caused by a Grease Filled Die. There is some good Longacre's doubling going on around the reverse lettering as well. The strike is only average, with hints of weakness around the reverse wreath, and the lower leaves on the obverse. Though that could be caused by the Grease Filled Die possibly, and I could see this coin receiving a Details Uncirculated grade just as easily. If it's not a details grade then PCGS dropped the ball on this one, never crack it out, as I doubt the coin would pass through a clean grade at any of the three TPGs again due to the obverse damage.

A nice looking 2¢ piece, other than the damaged area, which albeit, is quite small, too bad it happened on a main PUP. The color and wood grain look nice, and the surfaces seem original and not cleaned.


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I'll go ahead and say it does not have a details grade associated with it.
Now I see it is NOT a details grade!

Okay then my point about never cracking out really applies. I'll guess they went MS63BN? To me that scratch would take a minimum of 30% off and probably closer to 40% off the price of a piece without the damage.
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To me that scratch would take a minimum of 30% off and probably closer to 40% off the price of a piece without the damage.


Ouch. I guess I dropped the ball on this one too. The scratch did not look bad at all when I was looking at it in hand. Oh well, I guess if I ever decide to sell I may get a little less than expected. Good thing I paid well below price guide for it.
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Not a lick of wear
MS62

Shame the gouge on the obverse, huh? Buy the coin, not the slab, we've all been there...
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MS-62.
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MS63BN.
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I think it might have graded MS-63 BN.
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AU details due to scratch
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This one graded MS63BN (No details)
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Nice! Sorry that I was late, I would have said MS something-or-another.
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Oh well, I guess if I ever decide to sell I may get a little less than expected. Good thing I paid well below price guide for it.


You got a great grade considering! You say you paid below book for a MS63BN so you should be good.

When selling it, you might want to try an auction down the road, like Teletrade or Great Collections - might do okay that way - especially if they don't include hi-resolution images. I'm just surprised they slabbed this one without details. You may even consider returning it for a regrade and money back on the difference if detailed, directly from PCGS. Still it's not at all a bad looking coin.

Glad I got the grade right on the money after you said it wasn't detail graded. I'm batting a 100% on my favorite series the past dozen or so 2¢ pieces here on CCF, and that DOES surprise me, as the TPGs can be all over the place on them.
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