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1917 Type 2 SLQ....nicnamed Mr. Crusty. You Vs. NGC

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 Posted 02/17/2014  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list
I see only two marks on the obv and one on the rev. Must be around MS64FH. What are the two raised bumps at 9:30 rev in the field near wing. Clash remnant from IN GOD? nlp
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 Posted 02/17/2014  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list
As the old song says, "don't go changing just to please me", we love it just the way it is!
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 Posted 02/17/2014  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list
64FH as well, leave it as is
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 Posted 02/17/2014  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-63.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
MS64FH could be downgraded to a MS63FH but either grade this is a nice piece, quite original looking. If AU it's still a FH designation, this is a coin series that can be very tough to grade from a photo only, the rub spots can disappear with the lighting angle.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list
What a gorgeous quarter!
Dipped it would become 'just another high grade coin' with not much distinction other than a slab number.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list
MS-63, but as others have noted it is hard to tell with this series if there is any wear on the coin. I don't think so, but if there is it would be AU-58.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
Very nice, I would go with MS63FH
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 Posted 02/17/2014  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
thanks for all your comments. This was an oddball, NGC graded it as UNC details (reverse cleaned). I don't see any signs of hairlines or cleaning on the reverse and it is booming with luster. Maybe they think the black toning is a reaction to a dip of some sorts? Anywho, this coin looks the opposite of cleaned to me; but that was why I was wondering about a dip....since it is already "cleaned" according to NGC.
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 Posted 02/18/2014  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I would have guessed MS-63 FH. The coin seems okay in the pictures so I am not sure what NGC saw that led to that grade.
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 Posted 02/18/2014  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
Wow, the reverse does not look cleaned to me, not even close. Don't undervalue that coin just because of the designation, its a beaut.
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 Posted 02/19/2014  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
NGC looked at the reverse toning pattern and determined that a failed attempt to remove it had been made. It's a copout because of the chance of some random owner in the future thinking the same thing and filing a grade claim over the coin if it were in a righteous slab. In their defense, I'm not entirely sure they're wrong - this could just as easily be two different sets of toning, the darker, blotchy stuff being the original after an incomplete dip and the lighter stuff having happened in the time since.

Either way, I'm seeing a high eye appeal, market-acceptable coin and if you dip it, I'm coming straight through the Internet after you.
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 Posted 02/19/2014  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
lol, dont worry Dave...I dont intend to dip it. I'm a big toning fan in general, I just like to get the CCF'ers riled up every now and then. :-) It's a really beautiful coin, with full not only a fh, but full shield details as well....the strongest detailed type 2 that I own at the moment.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spud to your friends list
MS64 FH. Love this coin!
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MS 63
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