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Valued Member
 Germany
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Gold coins seller said it's a gold ~1gr.,he tests gold with chemical.
Is this modern token?I couldn't find no one like this in web.
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United States
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If it is real gold, you did OK. I wonder if this is a middle eastern counterfeit. I was talking with my local dealer one day and he was telling me about counterfeit gold. He said there are many counterfeits that are actually real gold. This seemed very strange to me (wouldn't you want to make a counterfeit with cheap materials?!), but he explained to me that in some countries it is illegal to own physical gold, BUT, there is one exception whereby it is allowed: if the gold is in the form of an antique. Thus, you hire someone to turn your gold bar into an antique coin. Since the coins were never intended to fool serious numismatists (only government beareaucrats!) the forger was not too concerned about making an exact copy or even using a date that made sense. That is the story I heard, perhaps a more seasoned member can tell me if I heard it correctly!
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02/24/2014 12:52 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My guess is some kind of jewelry piece.
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 United States
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My guess is some kind of jewelry piece.
It's not a counterfeit if the date was never produced, and it's a lot cheaper to crate a jewelry piece if the coin isn't real. |
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Australia
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I have no problem with this fantasy piece being made from good gold, for jewelry purposes. It is not meant to be an exact copy, and is not intended to fool anyone.
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Valued Member
Germany
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to chetzler I know what you mean,some people has made fake coins in UDSSR gold legal to bring,but that were copy ,not a fantasy. However,I'll check a gold in the coin one more time,and weight it. If it has modern made,I think there must be more pieces in web,and it's maybe only my opinion,but it looks for me not like "made in China" or modern made  And I don't understand,why is only one L in dollar!13 stars,number of leaves is the same,it was specially one L made,not a mistake. Does any one knows,how many edge reeds must be on real dollar? |
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Germany
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I checked the gold,it's not less then 90%
1.08 gram
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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However, the thread title could use a bit of editing.
Like translate it to English
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Valued Member
Germany
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I wanna make a spectral analysis,to understand what kind of gold that is.Maybe it's gold from nugget?
For jewelry purposes struck it with edge reeds?Isn't easier to cast?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Probably "dolar" instead of "dollar" to help avoid any issues regarding counterfeiting, even though it is a non-issue.
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Germany
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Probably "dolar" instead of "dollar" to help avoid any issues regarding counterfeiting I think so too!But counterfeiting..,I wouldn't say it's a counterfeit, cause it's actually a fantasy piece,weght is not from real dollar. There are 2 reasons for me it has been made:as whatever jewelry purposes or maybe as some private token,but issue didn't go ahead cause of some reasons. I'd like to know,how many fine gold is in the dolar,if exactly 1 gr. fine,it could be as a 1 gr. private payment token issued? |
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Portugal
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Hello american fellows, I'm from Portugal but I collect coins from all over the world. Recently I found this "coin", among many others, in my passed away grandpa collection. I found a so small coin (13,6 mm diameter) very curious, but I didn't found any information about it anywhere until I find this forum. So, this "coin" can be considered a "token" from the beginning of the 20th century? And why my "coin" don't have a single atom of gold? I think it is all in copper and have a remnant of silver welding near to the "ES" of "STATES", who makes me believe this is, in fact, for jewelry purposes. Thank you for your opinions and forgive me my poor english.   |
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Germany
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Wow!Cool!Hello and thank you for sharing!
I am convinced,that is the same maker,but there are differences except metal!You have only 10 stars,berries are not the same.
What a weight has you coin?
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Korea, Republic Of
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 to the forum. To start off, your "coin" is definitely a fake. A jewelry piece, not a token. The coin in the pic mimics an American Type 1 gold dollar, which was minted from 1849 to 1854. It was likely plated with gold and fit in a bezel or something to be used as jewelry. I can see the remnants of the gold that's left on the surfaces after most of it has worn off due to heavy usage of it. Edited by Matteproof
10/14/2014 11:06 am
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